Since when have i ever brought jr rider into conversations? JJ reddick, the guy you were crying about being the next whatever in the league is a smart marginal guy. What has he done?
Once again we agree. Except when you ask who you want taking that 3 ball for the game winner, I'd rather have Chase take it right now over Shane or Trevor. And yes, I do hope that if we trade one of them, we trade Trevor along with Jeffries, David Andersen, and our pick for either Bosh or another quality big.
JJ Redick is actually a good defender who is a phenominal 3 point shooter. He made Kobe's life hell in the Finals last year but only played sparingly because SVG didn't like him that much. I would be fine by me if Redick became a Rocket.
If you listened to Laker fans during the playoffs last year you would know that they were very critical of Ariza in the Denver series. He flat out couldnt handle Carmelo and Kobe had to switch over to contain him. As a result he was worn out considerably. Also Ariza shot 35% in the finals and they still won easily. They were going to win the ring no matter who was thier SF. If both Battier and Ariza were on that team, Battier would started and they would of been much better.
I've said this since we got him, but Ariza is not nearly as athletic as some of you make him out to be. The man cannot dribble a basketball. He simply doesn't have the coordination to be an elite athletes. Coordination is a big part of athleticism and it seems like Trev has very little control of his body on the court, especially with the ball in his hands
I would personally felate Morey for drafting Bud! Dude was an epic steal, argueably moreso than Brooks or Landry. He does so much on the court and has an endless ceiling. Like I said, he has the potential to be a more athletic Ray Allen. With the right set of offseason tutalage under Battier, his defense will be far better than Ariza's. Budinger>Ariza
The Raptors were interested in him in the offseason and actually were so close to signing him until he made his mind to go to the Rockets. I hope they are still interested in him so we can package him for Bosh.
Yeah, right. Just like he started when posey was in memphis. Kobe didn't guard melo either and couldn't guard him. Kobe was guarding jones if you watched the series. BTW, what did shane shoot in the playoffs last year?
Thats silly. The whole no matter who they had they would have won the championship. Ariza made TWO game winning steals against Denver. Two of them. Two steals Shane WOULD NOT have made simply because he isn't aggressive on defense. Do you honestly believe Lakers would have won the ring with Al Harringto as their SF or Adam Morrison? Also Ariza fit into that team perfectly, like a glove. Why do you think some Laker fans are starting to say "I think Ariza was the perfect fit there..." and even Artest his replacement says he's the better fit there.
You're right about Ariza but wrong about Shane's road performance on the playoffs. Shane played good defense but was a failure against the Blazers offensively in Game 2, He spent 33 minutes and scored only 2 points,in Game 4,he played 42 minutes for 4 points. Against the Lakers,in Game 2 he played 36 minutes for 6 points, in Game 3 at home(his only bad home game I admit),he played 42 minutes and got 6 points,in Game 5 on the road,he played 29 minutes and got 5 points and in Game 7,he played 32 minutes and got 3 points. In all these games,his scoring performance was below his regular season average. He wasn't the only guy who didn't do well,but he was unable to spread the floor like you said. He wasn't injured in these games either.
I hope you realize Ron was being sarcastic I dont know a laker fan who does not prefer ron, especially for the money
I still like JJ Redick as a better version of Luther Head, which is what I said. And I was not saying you brought up JR Rider, but just pointing out that guys with skills that are athletes are not always better players, or successful. Screw it, back on Topic. Chase Budinger needs to play, not sure he should start next year but he should play a LOT more minutes. His production translates, and his efficiency goes up......he is the real deal. DD
seriously, I think we should ban all things RealGM. The boards over there are like remedial versions of Clutchfans. Also, I agree on your stance on Budinger. He has all-star potential and once he improves on his defense and movement off the ball, he will become Ray Allen.
Did you even read this? It supports what I am saying, not you I counted: 17 posts preferring Ron 4 posts preferring Trev 2 neutral posts
Well he said he doesn't know a Laker that thought Ariza was a better fit. Also at Lakersground I remember the forums there being in a bit of a split as to how they would always miss Trevor. He was that sort of guy like Landry. Where you get the better player back but wonder what it did for team chemistry. Also, the forums here overrate a lot of our players and there is always a clear bias.
I'm not saying all i want are guys who jump out the gym either. I like the combination of both. Being athletic is more than just jumping through the roof. Its also about quickness,explosion,suddeness, and being able to translate that on the court. Trevor athletic, but he's missing balance,power,and quickness. Chase is athletic, but more linear. To me, i like the big ball of clay especially on a young,developing team. The bbiq and work ethic is what will determine how good a player will be. Kobe wouldn't be kobe if he had reggie miller' athletic ability. If shaq didn't have his explosion, he would be more like bynum. Like I've said, if they have to move trevor to get a superstar in some package, thats cool with me. If chase turns out to be the better player, thats a good thing also. I stand by what i said earlier in the season in regards to chase and the lineup. Of course you can't turn down what the rockets got for tracy with the picks and al, but if it were me, i would have found a way not to get martin, trade shane in a seperate deal and started chase and ariza on the wings. Like I've said about this year and the know lotto pick we were going to have, get the young guys time on the floor. I would play martin 35 mins, Trevor 30 mins, and chase 31 mins and see where it took me. i would closely monitor martins health and ariza's development. If neither hold up, i would trade one or possibly both.
