Ariza can do no right. he plays well and its luck he comes back from the flu and struggles and he sucks
All you needed was the first and last words.....all that other stuff in the middle just clouded the truth. DD
I'm not sure why everyone thinks Budinger is a small forward. Yes he's listed as a G-F but he's a big 6'6 and has legit size, shooting and off ball movement which is exactly what you want in an SG. I believe we've found a championship backup to Martin in Budinger. As far as defense, Ariza and Battier will matchup with the better 2s and its not like Budinger (as a rookie) is a defensive slouch. With an offseason to work on his D, he'll come back a much better defender.
Remind me what shane did on the road in the playoffs again. Trevor carried La when they were struggling during the finals on the road and in a pivotal game. Shane has never done that on the road in the playoffs. Its one thing to no show, but to no show and call yourself a leader is something else.
Shane plays consistent defense every night and doesn't do things on offense that he knows he can't. Ariza has a fluke game once a month
WHat do you mean by "no-showing?" I don't expect anything out of his offense, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. He played the defense I expect out of him every night.
Its not that he makes a conscious decision to not try to do too much on offense...its simply that he can't do much of anything on offense AT ALL. Ariza is more valuable than alot of you give him credit for. He's a VERY GOOD 4th scoring option, a very good defender and he's shown he can hit big shots and make plays in the playoffs.
No, guys like Shane and Kyle know their limitations and do not do things they know they can't, that is why they play so well. Ariza had never been a 4th scoring option, so how do you know he is a good one? His shooting percentages throughout his career indicated he should not be an offensive option. He is good at playing passing lanes, but is a horrible one-on-one defender. If he was so valuable, do you think the Lakers wouldda just let him walk?
What is this dribble you keep spewing about on the road in the playoffs? 4-18-09 game 1 @ Portland Battier -7 points on 5 shots, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, +34 Roy - 21 points on 23 shots, 2 assists, 2 rebounds, 1 free throw, -21 5-4-09 Game 1 @ LA Battier - 6 points on 5 shots, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 steals Bryant - 32 point on 31 shots, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 free throws
Shane gets a pass for going O-for in the playoffs on spot up jumpers and ariza gets roasted for medicore regular season play. interesting.
Members make up random playoff myths for players they have irrational hate for and ignore an entire season of below average play for others. Interesting.
not to mention ariza has played as a good of playoff defense as Shane has ever played while making huge offensive plays as well en route to an NBA championship.
Its not hate..Shane has more medicore playoff games than good ones..his defense is whats expected of him all season long the playoffs are when your supposed to step your game up. Defense is whats expected of both shane and ariza if your gonna roast ariza for stinking it up on offense hold shane to the same standard since he's just as guilty of doing the same.
It would be tough to start Bud in front of Shane and Ariza. Easier would be to wait, because he is younger and keep the pecking order and not rock the boat. But could Bud start. Of course he could.
I am holding them to the exact same standard. Ariza makes a ton of mental mistakes, Battier doesn't. Ariza misses a ton of open shots, Battier doesn't. Ariza gambles leading to easy dunks/layups, Battier doesn't. Battier knows his limitations and plays within himself, Ariza doesn't. Ariza has superior physical tools to be a better offensive and defensive player than Battier. Despite the better tools he is still a far worse defender and way less effecient offensively. In short, he is not as good of a basketball player. Our games w/o Ariza have been ok. Our games w/o Shane have been atrocities, period: No Ariza 5-5 v. Detroit 107-96 W v. Miami 99-66 L v. Orlando 110-92 L v. Spurs 109-104 W v. Utah 133-110 L v. Toronto 116-92 W v. Kings 84-81 L v. TWolves 112-98 W v. Pistons 110-107 L v. Boston 119-114 W No Battier 2-7 v. Utah 133-110 L v. Bulls 98-88 L v. Thunder 122-104 L v. Clippers 99-93 L v. Lakers 109-101 L v. Wizards 98-94 W v. Spurs 119-102 L v. Boston 119-114 W v. Pacers 133-102 L
Numbers for playoffs on the road, kind of a vague stat perhaps? "Ariza's 2nd & 3rd quarter playoff stats". "Brook's FT% in the last 4 minutes and team down by 1". Yeah road stats are specific enough but kind of cherrypicking-ish...anyways Ariza is like $5 and wasting all of it. Battier is like $2 and just wasting $1. One's too stupid to use what he has, the other is too low risk little to no yield. I commented earlier, all Rockets 26 and under can get better. Ariza at 24's already a fixed loser product. So I can't go along with that logic Even Kevin Martin's counted on to get better. And really he's performing below his career efficiency. That said Ariza's had too long a leash I think. Not to mention Chase is seriously gaining on him. Chase is now at 44% shooting and a nick under 37% 3 pters. Respectable and BETTER than Kevin Martin's Rockets averages in those categories.
