Budget deficit nears record under latest estimates

This is exactly what I was hoping you would say, minus the bizarre Palin bit at the end.

 

u need to read your history book.

Both Reagan and Bush Sr. had to renege on their much "publicized no new taxes" campaign pledges and did increase taxes late in their respective terms.

why ?

runaway budget deficits brought them back to reality.

people like you, other than parroting convenient rhetorics, have no idea what ur talking about.

Why are u so afraid of telling the truth, which is that The father of Reagonomics and the "read-my-lip" Bush Sr. also raised taxes.

 

Why is it bizarre? Just because you find her to be flawed, and flawed she may be, at least she is saying the words we want to hear from a 'Republican', finally.. and if those words are said often enough, and enter into the consciousness enough, maybe some kind of real shift will occur.. what, you think McCain would be the one to say it?

Picking Palin is a double-edged sword for McCain. It was a brilliant move politically, but it is also going to shackle him from behaving as much like a liberal as he has in the past. And while that's ok by me, I seriously doubt you will ever find anyone willing to call McCain a 'conservative' in the true sense of the word.

 

I wish Dick Army would have been more popular...that was a true straight shooter.

DD

 

A couple of points:

1) Hearing those words is meaningless. Republicans still like to pretend they are the party of small government (conservatives). *waits for laughter to die down* There is this abhorration (demonstrated adeptly by you) of any ideology that involves taxes in exchange for government services. While admirable (I want a fiscal conservative candidate myself) it's totally insane given their penchant for fiscal liberalism that would make any liberal blush! Caveat: at least McCain did have the guts to acknowledge this denial in his acceptance speech.

2) From Palin it's even more meaningless since her supposed record as a reformer is about as shaky as McCain is old.

 

While simultaneously BEGGING the American People for Line Item Veto..

Don't tell me I don't know what i am talking about, you don't know me.

Tell you what, YOU get yourself elected as President, and then try to get anything accomplished against an opposition party which places its own interests above that of the country. See how much you accomplish. You think they raised taxes because they WANTED to? Or because they planned to all along?

I don't know where kids are learning about politics these days, but being President is not quite as cool as being Headmaster at Hogwarts.. there ain't no magic wand, the guy is not all-powerful, and there is no magic spell he can cast to make everyone get along and cooperate. There is still a system in place, flawed as it may be, and the Executive is still only one branch of the government. Sometimes you wind up making promises, only to have them shoved right back down your throat by your enemies, while they giggle with glee.

The problem is NOT lower taxes, the problem is too much government spending. No person with an IQ higher than a turnip can seriously dispute this.

 

I disagree that hearing the words is meaningless. We'll just have to see how it turns out.

And as I said, Palin may be no saint, but who in politics is any more? What matters to me is that people begin to care again about being fiscally conservative.

And I *know* what the current crop of 'Republicans' say about smaller government and fiscal responsibility, but very few rank-and-file Republican citizens are buying it from them anymore. I say toss em out. The majority of them are frauds.

 

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thank you for making my point for me, that u have no idea what ur talking about.

if only u would stop contradicting urself.

 

Well, ok, if you insist on proving to everyone you have an IQ lower than a turnip, more power to ya.. and the 'u' instead of 'you' really helps in that regard too..

Let me type really slowly for you:

'Hard Choices' does not mean higher taxes. It means having to decide what programs to slice from the budget, where to make cuts, and having to listen to the media howl about how it all 'is harming children!!' ad nauseum.

No contradiction there. I know it may be hard for such a concept to get past your empty hat, but there it is.

Piece of advice for you: you might want to try looking a little less like a total moron before you go around insulting other people, telling them they don't know what they are talking about when you yourself clearly haven't the foggiest idea yourself.

To borrow a line from one of the cinematic greats: 'Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.'

 

the dizzying height of stupidity.

 

The problem isn't tax cuts. It's spending.

If we use the pre-Bush tax rates, there would still be huge deficits.

At least I think there would be. Can someone check that? Be interesting to see.

But as far as spending goes, non-military spending has increased faster under Bush than Clinton. That doesn't include Iraq.

 

he does know what he is talking about. Didn't we just hit a tax revenue record for last year? That would seem to indicate that the problem is not because of shrinking revenues.

If you spend more than you make - but you are making more $$ than ever before. Then maybe the problem is spending.

I hate to say it, but the GOP (notice that I didn't say conservatives) doesn't have much to stand on in this argument.

 

FWIW defense spending as a percentage of GDP has been declining for about 4 decades. it has had it's periods where it did bounce as a percentage of GDP but it has trended down over the past 4 decades.

...and for everyone else in this thread i will spam this so maybe people will try to educate themselves. it is extremely straight forward and easy to understand with very little bias or opinion...just the numbers.

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