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Bucks get screwed, Lakers win by 1 in OT

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tehG l i d e, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

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    i've never seen an instance of the offensive player backing into the defender like that and getting the benefit of the call
     
  2. clippy

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    You have a team with Fisher and Gasol and you have the nerve to complain about flops. Especially on the most obvious charge call in NBA history?

    God Faker fans are so ******* stupid.
     
  3. tehG l i d e

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    ooh their was a travel/charge alright, sportscenter even points it out.
     
  4. goodbug

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    You can run over a moving defender and it's a block. Let alone backing into with little contact.

     
  5. goodbug

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    SC doesn't know what's a travel alright? Half of LeBron highlights are 4 steps.

     
  6. pippendagimp

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    "run over" and "little contact" are 2 entirely different scenarios.

    personally, i think there should have been a no-call on this play because the contact was negligible.

    but as i posted earlier, an offensive player who turns his back (essentially because he has no where to go) and then runs into the defender (moving or not) with his back turned NEVER gets that call. in fact there are probably 25+ instances or our very own Yao being called for a charge on this same exact type of play.
     
  7. clippy

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    This was as obvious a charge as there is in the NBA. You can tell the ref was going to call it right but then must have gotten scurred for his job with Kobe (Stern's golden boy) screaming at him. Only delusional Faker fans are disputing this, and they are the collectively the stupidest fan base in sports history so it doesn't mean dick.

    The NBA is no better than the WWF.
     
  8. goodbug

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    Check Bogut's feet, he never stop shuffling feet the entire video. And he's even sliding to his right. You can be in denial but that's a block in NBA rule book.

     
  9. goodbug

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    Moving is the keyword here as Bogut was still shuffling feet. If Bogut hasn't flopped, it would have been a no-call. But Refs are forced to go one way or the other when a flop happens.

     
  10. clippy

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    Jesus you are in denial. You can move your feet when you take a charge, as long as you beat your man to the spot, which Bogut did. Kobe was completely out of control and lowered the shoulder, which is an automatic charge for every player in the NBA except for him. Why can't you delusional Faker fans just admit it when you get a gift? Do you think game 6 in 2002 was fairly officiated to?
     
  11. pippendagimp

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    when the offensive player has his back turned......it doesn't matter if the defender's feet aren't set. and it doesn't even matter if he's inside the semi-circle either. the whole point of placing those restrictions on the defender in the first place is to prevent defenders from trying to undercut offensive players who are already moving towards the basket with speed and possibly already in mid-air. but in this instance the offensive player has absolutely no where to go and simply manufactures contact for the sake of creating separation from the defender in order to get a shot off. no way it should or would have been called a block in a different game with other players' names involved.
     
  12. goodbug

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    Kobe spun away from Bogut and Bogut had to take that slide step to the right to take the contact, and that contact was minimal to begin with. He made it like Shaq backing into Brooks, epic failed flop.

    And while Lakers got the benefits of calls in game 6 2002, don't forget Queens needed an out of bound save to give Bibby a chance to win game 5 in final seconds. Lakers were screwed up first.



     
  13. clippy

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    OK, it's obvious that you aren't that familiar with the NBA (I'm guessing you are a foreigner), so I will cut you some slack. Basically, you are completely and utterly wrong about pretty much everything you've posted.
     
  14. goodbug

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    This is how NBA interprets Block/Charge on office website.

    On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. For most other cases, the defender must get into position and allow enough distance for the offensive player to stop and/or change direction.

    Kobe was already gathering the ball, turning to the right. I don't see Bogut giving him enough space to change direction. He shuffle his feet to the right to take the contact, that's not beating the man to his spot. There wouldn't be enough contact to even fake a flop if he didn't move to the right.


     
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    Travel? Yes
    Charge? No
    Did Kobe barking at the officials influence the outcome of the call? You be the judge of that

    In any event, the guy is absolutely merciless when the game is on the line. Teams need to just start doubling him the second he reaches half court. Make D-Fisher, Artest, Odom or one of those other boneheads beat you.
     
  16. pippendagimp

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    I wouldn't go that far, but it's obvious that tonight at least he/she is only interested in defending LA's win. but we do get other team's fans here in the NBA Dish who actually contribute good bball insight in general.
     
  17. goodbug

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    It's one of those pointless "I am in denial" posts and I am not wasting time arguing with him/her.

     
  18. wireonfire

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    faker fans so the most annoying. Get the heck out of here!
     
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    That just means that if they called it a travel on SC, it must have been really obvious.
     
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    He missed what would have been the game winner at the end of regulation.
     

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