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[BSPN] Fans Rank QBs, Schaub #26

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Wakko67, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. Wakko67

    Wakko67 Contributing Member

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    Rank 'Em: Quarterback Talents(#1 Votes)Points
    1 Tom Brady (36,124) 2,585,221
    2 Peyton Manning (33,385) 2,552,486
    3 Drew Brees (4,632) 2,353,832
    4 Ben Roethlisberger (2,272) 2,133,616
    5 Kurt Warner (751) 1,890,003
    6 Eli Manning (399) 1,879,284
    7 Philip Rivers (954) 1,872,918
    8 Donovan McNabb (342) 1,857,144
    9 Jay Cutler (1,089) 1,774,481
    10 Carson Palmer (158) 1,682,599
    11 Tony Romo (369) 1,654,144
    12 Matt Ryan (297) 1,465,137
    13 Matt Cassel (150) 1,373,948
    14 Matt Hasselbeck (133) 1,264,987
    15 Aaron Rodgers (323) 1,188,438
    16 Joe Flacco (174) 1,131,150
    17 Kerry Collins (69) 1,129,876
    18 Chad Pennington (129) 1,091,541
    19 Jake Delhomme (65) 1,079,280
    20 Marc Bulger (52) 1,001,820
    21 Jeff Garcia (20) 897,263
    22 Jason Campbell (217) 863,577
    23 David Garrard (36) 837,428
    24 Trent Edwards (214) 807,749
    25 Derek Anderson (123) 743,601
    26 Matt Schaub (47) 719,340
    27 Brady Quinn (145) 649,028
    28 Kyle Orton (193) 521,598
    29 Shaun Hill (123) 409,754
    30 JaMarcus Russell (187) 396,981
    31 Tarvaris Jackson (121) 393,088
    32 Matthew Stafford (52) 349,013
    33 Mark Sanchez (41) 296,145

    Total SportsNation Votes: 83,386

    QB Poll Here

    Further proves my theory that the average fan doesn't know $#!+ about teams BSPN doesn't love.

    I had Matt around #8 on mine. What do you guys think? I am curious as to y'all's picks for the top ten.

    Yes I used two apostrophes on one word.
     
  2. CriscoKidd

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    I wouldn't put him any higher than 14.
     
  3. Wakko67

    Wakko67 Contributing Member

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    I don't agree, but thats understandable. But 26? They have rookies ahead of him.

    So whats your top ten?
     
  4. Rockets34Legend

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    I'd put him at 12. I would go even higher if he was healthy the whole season.
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    For what it's worth, I only follow the NFL casually and I don't particularly like one team over another...here's my top 10 off the top of my head.

    1-Tom Brady
    2-Peyton Manning
    3-Drew Brees
    4-Kurt Warner
    5-Big Ben
    6-Phillip Rivers
    7-Don McNabb
    8-Romo
    9-Cutler
    10-Schaub
     
  6. Cannonball

    Cannonball Contributing Member

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    I'd probably put him in the middle of the pack, at least until he shows what he can do over a full season. #8 is a little too high. #26 is way too low. I'd probably put him at #13 or #14 right now. If he plays a full season and plays well, I could put him in the Top 10.
     
  7. Wakko67

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    I can see the argument for middle of the pack. Just looking at his ability though, he appears to have the talent of top ten. Plus we did get a crazy number of yards last year. Gotta make those red zone trips count. Hopefully Shanahan helps that.

    Top five are fairly easy for me.

    1. Mr Gisele
    2. Mr Commercial
    3. Brees
    4. K Warner (for now)
    5. I'd go with Rivers, though he is a d o uche.

    After that I put...

    6. Cutler
    7. Palmer (has to come back healthy)
    8. Matt Schaub
    9. Tony Homo (he might be higher if big games didn't matter)
    10. Big Ben (being a clutch player is huge, but I don't think he has the ability of the above guys.)


    After that there's a lot of uncertainty. Rodgers may lead the rest. I also thought Thigpen played well, but he's not an option on the site.
     
  8. Two Sandwiches

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    I'd put him at somewhere between 12 and 16 until he shows that he can stay healthy and start 16 games. With the emergence of this offense, and one more year of improvement, with (like I said) 16 healthy games, I think he's in the top 10.

    I would put these QBs ahead of him right now:

    Brady, Peyton, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Cutler, Romo.

    I would say these quarterbacks are pretty near him:

    McNabb, Flacco, Ryan, Palmer, Cassell, Rodgers, Edwards, and MAYBE Warner.

    Now, these are all assuming that these guys are 100% healthy. Like I said, if Schaub can have a full, healthy season where he carries the Texans' offense to even greater heights, I say he starts moving himself into that top category. Still, I think Schaub is a middle of the pack, quarterback right now. We're lucky enough, though, that even though he's in the middle of the pack, in my opinion, he fits into a class of quarterbacks that are young and on the rise.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    I don't get the obsession over the three or four guys who had pretty much just had one above-average season. There's no way I would put them above Schaub, especially not Trent Edwards or Flacco (I don't get the hype on that kid, sure he throws decently well, which is something the Ravens needed but he's pretty much just a placemat, a "score 7 points so the defense can win the game" type of player. Not a game-changer in my opinion.)
     
  10. KingCheetah

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    I'd put him somewhere between # 15-20 -- if he can stay healthy for an entire season he will obviously make a major jump.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    Agreed. I mean, Schaub missed five full games and still had more yards and more TD's to go along with a higher completion %, higher yards per attempt, and a higher QB rating than Flacco. I get that Flacco was a rookie (and coming from the FCS) and that you can expect him to get better, but if we're talking about how good someone is right now, he's just not there yet.

    Same goes for Edwards. I can see Flacco getting some run because Baltimore went 11-5 and made the playoffs. But Edwards and the Bills were worse than the Texans last year.
     
  12. Kam

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    he's about 14-17.


    He's better than Derek Anderson, Trent Edwards, David Garrard, Jason Campbell, Marc Bulger, Joe Flaco, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Hasselbeck. This is as of right now, at 8:49 PM, March 21th, 2009.
     
  13. Wakko67

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    Of the first ones, Big Ben and Homo have a worse rating than Matt.

    Of the second group, Warner and Rodgers are ahead of him.

    Plus he's fourth in accuracy for the year. I think that should put him in the top ten. Health is the only concern for him right now. I'm hoping this year he shakes the fragile reputation. I do agree that we're lucky to have someone in the discussion at all.
     
  14. Fulgore

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    Schaub 13th IMO


    Top 10
    Brady
    P.Manning
    Rothlisberger
    McNabb
    Brees
    Warner
    E. Manning
    Rivers
    Cutler
    Romo
     
  15. Wakko67

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    You put Eli over him? I don't agree with that. Can't argue with too much else on there.
     
  16. rhino17

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    1) Tom Brady
    2) Peyton Manning
    3) Drew Brees
    4) Kurt Warner
    5) Philip Rivers
    6) Tony Romo
    7) Eli Manning
    8) Ben Roethlisberger
    9) Carson Palmer

    I think Schaub is right there in consideration for the #10 spot with a few other guys.
     
  17. Two Sandwiches

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    I agree with you.

    Mostly, those names are thrown in there with Schaub's, in my post, because they are all up and coming quarterbacks that have great potential to be something. I would put Schaub, based in what she's shown as of now, ahead of all of the young guys.

    I would say:

    1. Peyton
    2. Brady
    3. Brees
    4. Roethlisberger
    5. Rivers
    6. Cutler
    7. Warner
    8. Eli
    9. Palmer
    10. Schaub
    11. McNabb
    12. Romo
    13. Matt Ryan
    14. Cassell
    15. Rodgers


    I think Warner is in a very good system with very good receivers, and that's why he's ranked so high..

    I may be leaving someone off though...
     
  18. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    that is ESPN nation for you.

    no knowledge of anything other than peyton manning, tom brady, kobe, the yankees, and the red sox.


    My list..

    1 Drew Brees
    2 Peyton Manning
    3 Tom Brady
    4 Kurt Warner
    5 Eli Manning
    6 Philip Rivers
    7 Donovan McNabb
    8 Matt Schaub
    9 Ben Roethlisberger
    10 Carson Palmer
     
  19. texanskan

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    uh Lebron Center as well

    good list
     
  20. juicystream

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    I'd say he is 15th or so.

    1 Tom Brady
    2 Peyton Manning
    3 Drew Brees
    4 Kurt Warner
    5 Donovan McNabb
    6 Tony Romo
    7 Eli Manning
    8 Ben Roethlisberger
    9 Phillip Rivers
    10 Carson Palmer
    11 Kerry Collins
    12 Chad Pennington
    13 Matt Ryan
    14 David Garrard
    15 Matt Schaub

    Jay Cutler is way overrated. His QB rating has actually dropped each year. He has managed to lead the Broncos to 2-3, 7-9, 8-8. They were a playoff team the 3 years before he got there, and were 7-5 when he took over for Plummer.
     

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