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Bryce Drew 4 rebounds shy of a triple-double

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 4, 1999.

  1. Finalfantasy

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    First of all, it's a mistake to take Drew at 16th, for one reason, we should have picked Cuttino Mobley at 16 and Drw at 45th for all I care. Besides, we don't need Drew, a slow unathletic sg, at then and we don't need him now. His existence doesn't fill the team need since the day he was drafted.

    Drew makes dumb TOs all the time, he can't even handle the entry pass, in the last two games he messed up two entry passes. What a dumbass, how can people call him a smart player when he got trapped so often, trying to call time out while step out of bounds, he is the dumb and the dumber. He can't bring the ball up the court by himself facing full court press. He is a sg not a pg, I still don't see him had a nice all around game just for once. Jason Kidd won't get outplayed by this dumbass if the teammates' shots fell in, their 45% shooting percentage got bailed out by their offensive rebounds, and no steals in 40 minutes for a point is a joke. I will stop calling him a scrub, but saying he is a good back up point for one game is unacceptable..
     
  2. Finalfantasy

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    Drew is certainly not a smart player, did you guys see him trying to foul the 330 pounds Oliver Miller by touching Miller' arm which is bigger than his leg? Got nothing but a three point play by Miller.
     
  3. TheFreak

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    "I will stop calling him a scrub, but saying he is a good back up point for one game is unacceptable.."

    "Drew is certainly not a smart player, did you guys see him trying to foul the 330 pounds Oliver Miller by touching Miller' arm which is bigger than his leg? Got nothing but a three point play by Miller."

    So one game doesn't make a good backup, but ONE PLAY means you're not a smart player?
     
  4. Finalfantasy

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    Well, it depends, if you run across the street without looking around and get hit it is certainly dumb for only once, what in the world was Drew thinking to change Miller's dunk in a fashion of skin care? Give him a hard foul or don't foul, Drew is a pro and he fouls like a p***y cat.

    [This message has been edited by Finalfantasy (edited December 05, 1999).]
     
  5. grummett

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    Two botched entry passes in the last two games, huh? A veritable turnover machine.
     
  6. Cohen

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    Who here would have picked Cat at 16? FinalFantasy, after we picked Cat, did you say at the time what a steal he was? Or do you just use hindsight to assess the quality of our draft.
     
  7. Rocket101

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    Who could they have gotten besides Drew that would have made a immediate impact? Once again Rudy T is showing a uncanny ability to pick up players who have a future in this wonderful game. Rudy T knows talent when he sees it.

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  8. TheFreak

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    Thanks for digging out those numbers Clutch. Let's consider some other factors in the 5-16 night. For one, the guy played 42 minutes, mostly against Jason Kidd, a 1st team All-Defensive team selection. Not only does he have his mind on stopping Kidd, but he has to run the team as well on the other end. We're talking about a kid who's played sparingly in what, 50 games for his career? And then there's the only stat that matters -- the Rockets won the game, beating a good team (2-0 w/Drew starting now).

    Didn't someone actually ask what Drew can do that Maloney can't? Forgive me if that was intended as a joke, but just for grins I'll go ahead and take a stab at it: How 'bout pass better, penetrate better, run a break better, finish better, better in-between game, and can do more offensively besides a stand-still three-pointer. The defense is a wash.

    Once Drew has reached his full potential, then we can discuss whether or not he was a bad pick at #16.
     
  9. Mulder

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    Well, I said I would post when Drew showed signs of improvement and I am a man of my word. Drew's game has improved over the past couple of games. But, no matter how "hot" he gets (sorry smurf, couldn't resist) he is a BACKUP and will alwys be a BACKUP, not there's anything wrong with that. I sure as hell know I could not hang with anybody who plays pro ball. (I'm past my prime!) So props to you Drew.

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  10. BrianKagy

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    I'm just curious how someone who wants a "veteran point guard" and so abhors using a 2nd-year player at that position can also enthusiastically endorse drafting Rashard Lewis...

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  11. Finalfantasy

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    Yes, it's hindsight Iadmit, but somehow I don't feel hindsight is a bad thing sometimes. It's just like saying MJ won six rings instead of two so that Houston should have picked him instead of Hakeem back in 84. Cuttino proved he is better than Drew so that we should have chosen him or other better players(in the team's need perspective) at the 16th. All talks about history is hindsight I guess, as people compare present with the past and that's hindsight itself.

    I explained why the Rockets should have picked Lewis as we didn't have a legit back up small forward for Pippen, and he had to play over 40 minutes a game, that's absurd considering his age. Also, we should have picked up a real point instead of a 2, such as Tyrone Lue.
     
  12. Lainey

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    Actually, I remember reading about the pre-draft camps, Drew went head-to-head with Lue and kicked his A**, I remember reading about it and was really surprised. That's why he was drafted in the first round, and Lue was a second rounder.

    Houston wouldn't have gotten him in the second round, because there were other teams (Indiana, San Antonio) interested in Drew....Not that any of that means anything at this point. But Drew did establish himself both at college and at a predraft camp, and Houston took him with they did, because they liked him, and knew he wouldn't be around later.

    They had been scouting him for over a year.
     
  13. Tb-Cain

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    Forgive me for not reading the 100+ posts on this topic, but I just noticed a REAL ugly stat on Drew.

    AFTER his 10 assist game, in only the 18th game of the season, he is STILL only averaging 1.8 per game. Now that's UGLY. For a point guard averaging around 20 minutes a game, that's UGLY.

    In his first 17 games, 22 assists? Ouch. Don't get me wrong, though, I want to see him do well. I loved his 10 assist game. Hopefully, it's only the beginning.

    Keep in mind, the point guard on the Rockets of old were not high assist men. That was left to the star players like Hakeem, Barkley, Drexler and Pippen.

    But I do think Drew will be better at the end of this year than Maloney ever was. Think about that, our back-up point is better than our starting point of the past. Quite a change.

    OK, I've rambled enough. No one's going to read post 100+ in a thread anyway.
     
  14. haven

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    Fearless Prediction: By the end of this year, Drew will be better than Mobley. Mobley plays with a lot of heart, but doesn't have much true talent, imo. Drew has more natural gifts, imo.

    I find watching Drew's hesitancy painful.
    I find watching Mobley's brashness more painful.
     
  15. heypartner

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    If Drew can make that Hornacek-esque runner on a consistent basis, protect the ball, and play smart defense, he's got 10 minutes per game on my team. One thing though, if Shandon continues to play awesome, I'm not sure if Mobley even has 10 minutes per game. just kidding.

    I continue to cringe though when I see Al Harrington playing fearless and active for Bird.
     

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