Uh, no You said: That's pretty much tantamount to saying he is guilty. But then you said: So you said it, but you must not have comprehended it. You mean like: That's pretty outrageous. That's pretty outrageous. So I stand by my statement, you sound more like a pompus little pimple popper than someone trained in the art of judicious consideration. If you are a lawyer you must be a bad one. Jeep
Incidentally, for those saying it's a criminal rather than civil matter... ...it's only a criminal matter for as long as the girl wants. Prosecutions almost never go forward w/o the willingness of the purported victim, given the importance of their testimony. So if she's in it for the money... we'll know soon.
If true, this is a shame. I've always thought that Bryant was a great ambassador for the game. Right now there are simply too many unknowns but I will say that he's one of the last guys in the NBA that I would ever expect to be accused of something like this.
Kobe didn't do anything. . .unfortunately. Only in my wildest dreams would Kobe get arretsed. I did start the infamous "Do You Hate Kobe?" thread almost a year ago but even I know this isn't Kobe's style. The prosecutor didn't look to thrilled about the police arresting him w/o consulting him. I'm in law school and I work for the prosecutor's office in Miami and I know they don't appreciate that kind of stuff. Of course none of us know excatly what happened but this will be figured out by the end of the week so we'll see.
I thought he was a good guy... Hmm...and he just had a child with his wife. What was he thinking..... bad boy... I can't believe this. Well I guess he will just pay her out. I wonder if he will be imprisoned....give the Rockets a chance. BUT SERIOUSLY. I can't believe him. He always seemed like a sly guy..
Fry him...unless he willingly agrees to a sign and trade deal to Houston and re-negotiates his contract for the minimum.
I can't believe you took that seriously, you must be a dullard. My comments smacked of sarcasm..... but obviously that sailed right over you. I thought you were discussing my later comments.
I never said you were concerned about hurting Kobe's feelings. You went off on a rant about how you and anybody can say whatever the hell they want to on this board because this is America when nobody but you had even remotely mentioned anything that would suggest people should hold their toungues. exhibit A Before you said all of that, you posted this. exhibit B everybody else here will read this and perfectly understand what I'm trying to tell you. These are your words, live with it.
Really? These quotes sure sound like people are saying others should "hold their tongue" Sounds to me like a # of people ....... then again, reading comprehension is not your strong suit....... live with it
i've never heard of this. anybody else heard about this? is this true? you know as much as i 'hate' (irritated, annoyed with) kobe bryant, i 'hate' michael jordan even more. what is love? love is........ urghh.
Well if ever a subject called for a sarcastic response it's sexual assault ! (uh, that was sarcasm) It wasn't that we didn't get you were being sarcastic. The point , that you don't seem to get is that, your sarcasm is inappropriate. (you pompus little pimple popping dullard) Best regards, Jeep
huh??? just because the woman agrees to participate in the prosecution as THE material fact witness and victim doesn't change the nature of the proceedings. it is still very much a criminal proceeding. she doesn't have to bring a civil lawsuit against him for damages in order for the authorities to press charges and attempt to prosecute him.
Smackpeddler, What if you got ASSRAPED? I mean someone just snuck up behind you and imposed himself upon your ass, could you make that funny? Come on Sultan of Sarcasm, if you can make such negative light of another persons 'alleged' crime, let's see what you can do with your ASS in the spotlight.
If I was ASSRAPED I wouldn't care if a complete stranger made sarcastic remarks about it on a messageboard. Ofcourse Kobe wasn't assraped, he is accused of sexual misconduct, so I don't get the ASSRAPE comment other than you have a deep rooted desire to sodomize men...... to each his own I suppose
Wednesday, July 9 Vail cabbie says Bryant was with entourage, police -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services CORDILLERA, Colo. -- Kobe Bryant left a Colorado hospital approximately 12 hours after the time frame in which he is accused of committing sexual assault against a 19-year-old woman, the Orange County Register reported Wednesday. Bryant Terry O'Brien, a 38-year-old Vail Taxi dispatcher and driver, told the Register that he picked up the Lakers star from the emergency room at Valley View Hospital in Glenwood Springs. According to the newspaper, Bryant was with three members of his entourage and flanked by Eagle County sheriff's officers. Bryant pulled a towel over his head before diving into the back seat of the cab, O'Brien told the newspaper. O'Brien was not at work early Wednesday and a telephone listing in his name was disconnected. Police spokesperson Kim Andree refused to discuss the newspaper report or confirm whether sheriff's deputies accompanied Bryant to a hospital and then let him leave. Fans launch "Free Kobe" Web site A pair of sports fans have launched a Web site to take advantage of the Kobe Bryant legal situation, the Rocky Mountain News reported Wednesday. "We didn't handle this case any differently than any other case," she said. She said the department uses hospitals in Glenwood Springs and Vail for tests in sexual assault investigations. O'Brien said he transported Bryant and three men to the Hotel Colorado in Glenwood Springs, then drove one of the men back to the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, where the man "cleared out" Bryant's belongings. O'Brien said he was paid $372 by Bryant bodyguard Michael Ortiz for the 2½-hour job. The Register did not specify how O'Brien knew Ortiz's identity. "The whole thing was pretty weird and pretty fishy," O'Brien told the Register. "Bryant was laying in the back seat with a towel over his head, trying not to be seen, while three men were taking care of all the details." District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said Tuesday he hoped to have a decision whether to file charges against Bryant by the end of this week. "I felt confident from the first time I talked to my investigators," Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy said. "I felt we did the right thing." Hoy confirmed that the allegations against Bryant were made by a 19-year-old Colorado woman who works at the resort. Hoy said the woman has left on vacation with her family. Hoy also said investigators have sent unspecified evidence to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation for analysis. A bureau official said that the work has begun. Authorities have said they are treating Bryant like any other suspect, though Eagle County sheriff's investigators didn't reveal his arrest until two days after he was released on bail. Earlier this week, Sheriff Joe Hoy said investigators learned of the assault allegation on July 1 and spent nearly 30 hours on the case before contacting Bryant. Andree has said investigators told Bryant about the arrest warrant last Thursday, and he returned to Colorado the next day to turn himself in and post $25,000 bail. The arrest wasn't announced until Sunday. On Tuesday, Hoy said the alleged victim would return home from a family vacation to "mind-boggling" media attention. Hoy said he was concerned about the pressure on the woman and frustrated that there was more attention on Bryant than on her. "To me, the sad part is, if this hadn't been who it involved, this wouldn't even be a blip on anyone's radar screen," he said. "Personally, I think they're focusing on our suspect rather than on the victim." Prosecutors Monday said they needed more time before deciding whether to bring charges against Bryant, 24. "Sexual assault cases are extremely complex and sometimes it takes awhile to get through everything," Hurlbert said Monday. He refused to discuss details of the allegations against Bryant, a five-time NBA All-Star. Hurlbert said the alleged victim was "doing OK, considering the circumstances." Under Colorado law, sexual assault could range from fondling to rape. Bryant's lawyer said Monday that Bryant "expects to be completely exonerated" and accused the sheriff's office of rushing the case. Bryant turned himself in to authorities Friday, the sheriff's office said. The married father of a baby girl was released that day after posting $25,000 bond. Officials at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera, a gated resort in Edwards, said Bryant stayed there June 30-July 2. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Kobe allegedly flirted with employee during check-in at hotel: Thursday, July 10 Report: Kobe submitted DNA during hospital visit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services EAGLE, Colo. -- Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant talked to and flirted with the alleged victim in the ongoing sexual assault case when he checked into the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera on June 30, according to hotel employees, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday. One employee told the newspaper that hotel security, responding to complaints of noise from other guests, went to Bryant's room early in the morning on July 1. A report of the alleged attack was made to Eagle County law enforcement officials later that afternoon, hours after Bryant underwent arthroscopic knee surgery, according to the Times. The newspaper also reported that the alleged victim -- a hotel employee -- is a former cheerleader and choir singer at Eagle Valley High School who was described as "fun-loving, outgoing and emotional" by friends. A couple that lives next door to the woman expressed shock that the alleged victim is the woman they know. "My husband was just saying this morning that he was a disbeliever of the legal action against Kobe -- he thinks Kobe is a stand-up guy," the wife, who declined to give her name, told the Times. "But my thinking all along has been, 'Why would this woman give a false accusation and open herself up to all this scrutiny unless something happened?' " Her husband told the newspaper that his position changed upon learning the identity of the alleged victim. "It's more complicated now," the man said. "My thinking was entirely based on Kobe's clean image. But now, actually knowing this girl and her family a lot more than I know Kobe, I just do not think she would do anything malicious. We're dealing with a young girl here, somebody brought up in the mountains, a trusting person. "That entire family is well-respected. Usually, you get a good sense of a child by the pride her parents show, and they did with her." Under Colorado law, sexual assault encompasses a wide range of behavior, whether it be touching a clothed body part or engaging in a sexual act, and what the accusations are is not yet clear. Also on Thursday, the Times reported that Bryant and the 19-year-old woman each went to a hospital after the alleged attack, but investigators said little about the reasons. Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy told the Vail Daily on Wednesday that the woman underwent tests, but he declined to identify the tests or the facility. He said the tests were common practice in sexual assault cases. Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Andree would not say whether deputies or someone else took the woman to a hospital, or whether she drove herself. Sheriff's deputies took Bryant to Valley View Hospital in Glenwood Springs, about 40 miles west of the resort, early on July 2. Bryant voluntarily submitted DNA samples to investigators, the Rocky Mountain News reported Thursday. Sheriff's detective Doug Winters said Wednesday that Bryant was allowed to leave on his own because he had not been charged. Deputies stayed with the Lakers guard while he was at the hospital, to protect the integrity of the evidence, according to the newspaper. District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said Tuesday he hoped to have a decision whether to file charges against Bryant by the end of this week. "I felt confident from the first time I talked to my investigators," Hoy said Tuesday. "I felt we did the right thing." Terry O'Brien, a 38-year-old Vail Taxi dispatcher and driver, told the Orange County Register Tuesday that he picked up the star from the emergency room at Valley View Hospital. According to the newspaper, Bryant was with three members of his entourage and flanked by Eagle County sheriff's officers. Bryant pulled a towel over his head before diving into the back seat of the cab, O'Brien told the newspaper. O'Brien was not at work early Wednesday and a telephone listing in his name was disconnected. Police spokesperson Kim Andree refused to confirm the story, but did say the department uses hospitals in Glenwood Springs and Vail for tests in sexual assault investigations. O'Brien said he transported Bryant and three men to the Hotel Colorado in Glenwood Springs, then drove one of the men back to the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, where the man "cleared out" Bryant's belongings. O'Brien said he was paid $372 by Bryant bodyguard Michael Ortiz for the 2½-hour job. The Register did not specify how O'Brien knew Ortiz's identity. "The whole thing was pretty weird and pretty fishy," O'Brien told the Register. "Bryant was laying in the back seat with a towel over his head, trying not to be seen, while three men were taking care of all the details." Authorities have said they are treating Bryant like any other suspect, though Eagle County sheriff's investigators didn't reveal his arrest until two days after he was released on bail. Earlier this week, Sheriff Joe Hoy said investigators learned of the assault allegation on July 1 and spent nearly 30 hours on the case before contacting Bryant. Andree has said investigators told Bryant about the arrest warrant last Thursday, and he returned to Colorado the next day to turn himself in and post $25,000 bail. The arrest wasn't announced until Sunday. On Tuesday, Hoy said the alleged victim would return home from a family vacation to "mind-boggling" media attention. Hoy said he was concerned about the pressure on the woman and frustrated that there was more attention on Bryant than on her. "To me, the sad part is, if this hadn't been who it involved, this wouldn't even be a blip on anyone's radar screen," he said. "Personally, I think they're focusing on our suspect rather than on the victim." Prosecutors Monday said they needed more time before deciding whether to bring charges against Bryant, 24. "Sexual assault cases are extremely complex and sometimes it takes awhile to get through everything," Hurlbert said Monday. He refused to discuss details of the allegations against Bryant, a five-time NBA All-Star. Hurlbert said the alleged victim was "doing OK, considering the circumstances." Bryant's lawyer said Monday that Bryant "expects to be completely exonerated" and accused the sheriff's office of rushing the case. Bryant turned himself in to authorities Friday, the sheriff's office said. The married father of a baby girl was released that day after posting $25,000 bond. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Just heard on the news that Kobe and the lady just gave dna samples. They'll find out soon if they will go and charge Kobe with the crime.
