Brown: Waiting to hear back from Rockets this weekend

Regardless, this Vescey article has made me feel better and a pretty good mea culpa from a guy who should write these every few days.
The Feigen article in the Chronicle this morning was bull**** no matter whom you believe.
Codell, what suggests to you Brown wants power? Supposedly the only jobs he's really been interested in have been without an executive position. If he takes the job with the Wizards you would a point, and that's not happening.
Mike Dunleavy is a good coach, but I still say Alexander needed to get somebody more outside the Rockets extended family so he could get a clearer picture of what this teams problems are.
If Les and CD have been in agreement to be patient, then I think Les is being naieve. Rookie mistake.

 

I think that this deserves it's own thread. Damn.

 

I guess that ends that debate... VanGundy anyone???



theSAGE

 

I agree with DCKid, there are people ripping management but it just seems like things are happening fast. The statement in that article and Clutch's statement tells me that the Rockets wanted Van Gundy suddenly rumors started that Larry Brown was resigning from the 76ers, so the Rockets talked to him prior to his press conference and official resignation from the 76ers. The Rockets then did "cover our @ss" interview when the interview they had while he was still a member of the 76ers was the real interview. They liked what they heard and made an offer. Brown looked at the offer, wanted the Rockets job, but decided to try and improve his leverage and talk to Washington among others. Suddenly Detroit swoops in, fires Carlisle and makes a sweet offer to Larry Brown. Brown is like "damn, this is a sweet offer! But I want to coach the Rockets, lets see if they have a counter offer", so he waited until this weekend and the Rockets are probably made a nice offer back to him now he's balancing out the offers since Detroit is serious about signing him and they have an attractive team in their own right. That's what I got from it, Clutch's statement covers the Rockets original offer, the article printed in this thread is AFTER that statement, and the Larry Brown comment is basically saying "Hey Houston, I got a good offer from the Pistons, I want to hear your counter offer".

 

How would he be screwing the Pistons over? Unless he told Detroit that he would definitely accept the job if there was a coaching vacancy, then he can't be accused of doing anything wrong.

 

Yep...he's just risen to the top of my leader board.

 

Brown is a clear no 1. van gundy is a clear no 2.

brown for 8 million or vangundy for 5.5 million. if that's the choice, geez, WHERE THE HELL IS MY 8 MILLION!!!

Searching for an analogy . . . We have a car with a the newest, finest, yet untested engine . . . and it handles like a dream.

Shall I drive the car, or should we hire Jeff Gordon? Are we just going to the grocery store, or are we racing in the indy 500?

DAMMIT LES. QUIT PLAYING WITH THE PUPPY AND START WRITING CHECKS.

 

Right on RM,
Perhaps the Rockets told Larry to go out and see what he could command on the market and that that they would come back with the closer.

 

Hot, we should just wait and see. The confluence of information suggest LB did not get an offer.

 

People don't put their neck on the line unless they think the risk of something NOT happenning is marginal. i.e. Dumar's superior, whoever he/she is, probably get the head nod, the handshake, the wink wink, whatever body language from Brown that 1.the terms discussed were more than ample and that 2.Brown would most likely be committing to them. Think about it. If you were the Piston's owner, would you DARE make such public comments of your interest in Brown if you didn't think it was a done deal? Nobody likes to be ridiculed for not being left to dry. And here, the Pistons, nominally, could have been left to dry, but they obviously had enough "reassurance from Brown" to take the risk. If Brown backed out, then he'd have majorly screwed the Pistons.

The press conference for Rick Carlisle's dismissal said it all. The Pistons have made it clear from day one they've been out for Brown. And who knows??? Maybe their privately discussed things with Brown even BEFORE Carlisle's firing.

Either way, good riddance.



theSAGE

 

I don't think I'm reading anything into it. I'm just basing it on the quotes. If there are other cirumstances that we don't know about like you have suggested, then that may be the case.

However, what we do know is that on Saturday, Brown was still waiting on the Rockets to contact him about something after their meeting on Wednesday. Basically, I don't care what he was waiting on, whether it was salary or how much control he'll have in personnel decisions, <b>why was he waiting if he was our undisputed #1 choice</b>? The only answer is INCOMPETENCE within the Rockets' front office. They should have thrown down an offer and given him all the information he asked for before other teams came into the fray to compete for him.

 

Yeah, but this is the same guy who traded an All-Star player after a very succesful season for a borderline star. I don't think it would be that out of character for Dumars to fire Carlisle without a reassurance from Brown, especially with all of the recent news about tension between Carlisle and the front office.

 

I agree. If Dumars doesn't fire Carlisle, it would come to a boiling point during the season. But Dumars felt pretty good about getting Brown. There must have been a conversation at some point between Brown and Dumars prior to Friday.

 

Either Brown is not being truthful with the media or Clutch's source is not being truthful with him.

 

If the SI article at 11:23 a.m. Eastern is accurate - then Brown has signed for 25 mil for 5 years or 5 mil per year. Where is everyone getting 8 mil per year for Brown????

5 mil per year was less than we paid Rudy (Rudy had 2 years left at 6 mil per).

I cannot believe any reasonable negotiator or retired bond trader like Les alexander would make an offer- then tell Brown to go test the market and get back with them - they would offer the "closer". That is like saying -money is no object- here - just bend me over.

I do not believe Alexander would say - "test the Market" - implied we would match any offer.

I have heard Alexander refer to the Davidson group owning Detroit as being extremely wealthy-in the context of salary cap and luxury tax.

I do not believe Alexander will get in a bidding war with the Davidsons.

If the conctract has been signed between Brown and Detroit- it is over - lets make a fast - serious offer to Carlisle.

This really makes me mad--- if ----we could have signed Larry Brown for 5 mil per year and then played with ourselves and watched while Detroit had time to fire their coach and hire Brown.

 

My bet will always be on Clutch's info being correct.

 

My question is -Do Brown and Detroit have an agreement in principle????? Even if they do not have a signed and executed contract.

Sports Illustrated reported this at 11:23 a.m. Eastern

 

Me too. If Clutch's info proves true, then Brown is a) a liar and b) likes to interview for his colleague's jobs behind their back.