Brooks is going to be better than boykins. He is bigger and he has better point guard skills than earl. Brooks is about the size of allen iverson. He will put on a little weight,he is 5'11 without shoes maybe 6'0 with shoes on,he is small but he isn't early boykins 5'5 or spud webb 5'7 or mugsy 5'3.He's more like allen iverson 5'11,6'0.
great stuff. i knew he was good since i watch the pac-10 over on the west coast. i dont think he'll be a "great" player though but he'll have his place in this league. i just hope he can solidify his position on this team in terms of minutes played b/c i think he can be a contributer. u can never have enough playmakers. he's a playmaker. if francis/james/bonzi don't pan out, i think brooks will take their place EASILY.
i hope he gets PT. if he has to squeeeze MJ and/OR Francis out of the equasion to get his due, then so be it. this kid seems to be a total gun.
Deron can try to post up Brooks, but Brooks will run circles around him on the other end....any way, with Brooks speed he can beat guys to spots and get a lot of steals or pick their pockets. I think Deron brought up the posting up comment out of his own ego....he wants to praise the rookie, but also put him in his place since he is playing for his rival. Kind of a the rookie will do well in the league, but I'm still better kind of thing... Deron will get tired if he has to chase Brooks around and might turn some ankles just keeping up....anyway, most like Brooks would be going up against Jason Hart.... We should be happy that we have an abundance of wealth at point guard.....They all bring different things to the tabe. Steve is bigger and stronger and can jump out of the gym (even in the last games in NY last year). Steve would be great going up against bigger guards and also overpower smaller guards. Brooks can be our Barbosa, just pure raw speed blowing by bigger slower point guards or keeping up with the pesky speedy little point guards. James is a solid vet would can shoot well, score pretty well, defend some...... All 3 are pretty athletic and quick.
The big question is how do speedy Claxton, Nate Robinson, and Earl Boykins defend bigger PGS? LIKE USUAL. There is not a true post up guard in the league anymore. Only a handful still do it, Gary Payton, Kidd(sometimes), Jamal Tinsley(a lot but he hardly ever sees the court and we will play him twice a year maybe). I have hardly ever seen Billups post up anyone but when I have it hasn't been pretty, it is not his game. I have never seen Deron post up anyone before so I don't know what he is talking about. I would love to see that macho attitude brought on Brooks because if you try to post him up, just like the small PG's I mentioned above, it will not be in their best interest. But hey if they want to be macho and post up a player because they have a couple inches on him be my guest. I would assume that most of the bigger PG's in the league do not work on their post up game that much in the offseason but we will see when Brooks plays a bigger guard and all of you will be scared sihtless and nothing different will happen. I love watching a PG try to post up Boykins because he doesn't give an inch(horizontally of course). He is a strong little mofo and PG's have pretty much given up trying to post him up because he is too strong. More times than not he is stronger than them(he benches 350 lbs.). I know Brooks is no where close to this but I think he is feisty enough to not get abused to bad if someone does try to manhandle him. Do you see all of them saying how fearless he is? Please quit worrying about 2 or 3 games out of the season and 5 possesions in those games that a big PG might post up Brooks. It is really a silly thing to be worried about.
heh, reminds me when people compared yao to shawn bradley. Just because you have similar height doesn't mean you share the same attributes. You see, basketball is a multifaceted game....
That will be his ultimate weakness, so he just needs to offset that weakness by being a speedy playmaker who defenders have trouble with as well.
Hmmmm.....Thinking about it, didnt Rafer also have a good game in Toronto? Rafer dominates 6ft guards?
You haven't seen Deron play much because I've seen him post up. I've also seen Chauncey do it very effectively. Most PGs are perimeter players and naturally posting up isn't a major part of what they do. But when someone weighs 40-50 lbs less (it isn't just about height), posting up suddenly becomes part of their repetoire for that game. Watching summer league, AB has a lot more to learn about defense than just post ups. We'll see how he develops but I doubt his defense will ever be a strong point. Hopefully he can punish bigger players enough on the other end to make up for it.
P.J. said very a LOT!! All of the people doubting SF3 need to go look at his stats from the last few games in NY when he was getting starter minutes. The problem with SF3 is when he is not playing starter minutes his production drops dramatically.
Oh come on, he's not that short. Geez. He's more around Brevin Knight and Damon Stoudamire's height (taller, actually). He'll be a great starter eventually.
Ditto - come playoff time any weakness will be exploited to the max. An opponent will keep running the same post-up play until it is stopped. All you have to do is to see how Rudy used Hakeem the majority of his prime years. They just kept dropping it into the post and let him go to work until the double or triple team came to the rescue then out goes the ball to the perimeter for a spot up shot. Brooks will defintiely be at a disadvantage in the post up game so he will have to get his post up man in foul trouble with all that speed he has to get him out of the game!! That will be his best defense against the post up offense.
and that is when having a deeper bench and a coach that plays more players will make a difference and we have both of these this season. WE WILL BE EXPLOITED NO MORE
I have seen them do it and they are not that effective at it because they are so much more effective on the perimeter. Gary Payton was one of the best post up PG's because he worked on it and did it against any opponent no matter what the height. You will take Billups and Deron out of their comfort zone and take away their strength and using picks to get a shot off with room or take it to the hole is what they do best. I understand how much Brooks is outweighed but do you see Iverson getting posted up either. He is arguably about the same size as Brooks. It really does not happen as much as people think and it is funny that Deron mentions that he will post up Brooks which happens to be every one's worst fear in the world on this board. I also don't think Sloan will want his star PG taken away from what he does best and have Boozer away from the post so Deron can post up. You guys are seriously mistaken if you think Sloan will use this against Brooks. As you say, his defense is questionable, mainly pick and roll D, which is what makes the Jazz such a tough team. I am much more worried about how to guard Deron when he is running the pick and roll to perfection and using the same screen 10 times in the same possession. This is what he does so well and honestly there was nothing Rafer could have done to prevent this except have Yao stop Deron in the lane but he would just blow right by him. You guys can continue to fret over Brooks getting posted up but as you said it is his all around defense that scares you. I think he will be a pretty solid man to man defender but it is a different story when you have a huge guy like Boozer setting picks and a guy like Deron with the ball. I would very happy if Deron posted up and Boozer stood around and watched on the perimeter. That would be a great sweep for us if that was Utah's game plan.
