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Brooks should enter rotation instead of Beverley.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. KlutchQT

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    I personally think McHale would be out of his mind to glue him to the bench again once Jeremy is back. If he's still playing this well, increase his minutes substantially. If that means taking some from Bev, some from Jeremy, some from Casspi/Garcia, OK. The more we can spread minutes without losing impact, the better (IMO). Not too hopeful though, given how hesitant McHale seems to be to expand the rotation.
     
  2. durvasa

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    Brooks is shooting out of his mind on 3-pointers of late. He's a career 37% shooter from there. He'll his averages will eventually get back towards that mark, with nights where he won't be able to hit anything. He's a good shooter, though, especially when he's confident, so he'll generally help us on that end.

    The problem is he's one of the worst defenders in the league. If he's not shooting lights out, having him on the floor for prolonged stretches is a bad idea.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Sounds like Harden.

    DD
     
  4. rhino17

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    They can all play in the rotation and all bring different things to the table, no reason to trade anyone
     
  5. rezdawg

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    He knows his role on the team...I think he feels fortunate just to be in the NBA and to be a part of one of the best teams in the league.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    why are coaches opposed to a 10 man rotation? I understand that a shorter rotation means more consistency but it really puts wear and tear on the players.
     
  7. vator

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    Brooks is a miniature James Harden.
     
  8. chenjy9

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    Except Harden can do far more than just shoot the long ball? Harden can drive, penetrate, pass, and rack up fouls. Brooks can only shoot and nothing else.
     
  9. vator

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    Uhm, Brooks can take his man off the dribble and penetrate just fine. He is probably one of the quickest players in the NBA and has always been good at blowing past his defender. His problem is and has always been he is undersized. He passes just fine, but he is not a facilitator. He is a flat out scorer. A sg trapped in the body of a small pg. Harden does have better court vision and is one of the best players in the league at taking contact and drawing fouls. In the role Brooks is in right now, he is pure gold. He can focus on scoring and let Harden, Beverley, or Lin do the heavy lifting in regards to setting up the offense. His biggest deficiency here is defensively. Offensively, he is a perfect fit next to Harden. Perfect. Defensively, the exact opposite can be said lol.
     
  10. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    He can get past his man using speed just fine, but then what? His only options at that point is to either shoot a long range 2 or hope the D starts collapsing on him to try and kick it out. He is not only averse to driving all the way to the rim, but quite ineffective at it as well being hopelessly undersized. That is and has always been AB's issue... if his shot is not falling, he is USELESS. He cannot create spacing because no one respects him when his shot is off. Harden on the other hand, can eurostep around people or flat out run them over with his much tanker body. In that regard, he is like a bigger, smoother, and possibly faster Lowry.

    You might have misconstrued my response to DD as saying I don't want AB in general. I am happy with him on the team and with his role as a purely situational relief guard because that is all he can be efficiently. Basically use him when he is hot and pull him as fast as you can when he cools off. For the people that want to give him a starting role again, those people are crazy.
     
  11. vator

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    I don't know man. I seem to recall Brooks driving and knocking in a couple of those sweeping hook shot layups just about every game. You're right in the sense though that if he isn't scoring, he probably doesn't significantly contribute much on most nights. That said, you can say that for most role players. They have a specific skill that the team looks to them for.
     
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    I blame Adelman for that whole mess.

    Adelman created an "Us vs Them" situation in regards to Team vs Management. "Those front office nerds just don't understand us" type mentality.

    Under the McHale regime, the Rockets have adopted a new mentality - "We are all one team from top to bottom".

    I used to LOVE Adeleman until I saw what he was doing. His final season here was trash and I lost all respect for him. His mind is f**ed, he is old and bitter now. He thinks he is smarter than everybody else in the world, wants to be GM and Coach at the same time.
     
  13. chenjy9

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    He makes a couple of circus shots that he throws up every now and then, but for the most part he is worthless when it comes to finishing at the rim due to his very small size and inability to finish after taking a hit.

    That has always been my argument; AB is not a PG or a starter, but a very situational role player that should only be used when his shot is on.
     
  14. mclawson

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    I'm not sure who you've been watching, but Brooks has a variety of running hooks, scoops, floaters, and other finishing moves around the basket and he always has. It comes with being short, I'd guess.

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  15. Chris Jent MVP

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    I can imagine that most coaches WANT to use their full rosters. I know that's what I would want to do if I was a coach.

    But then reality gets in the way - fans expect wins every day and owners want to sell tickets. So you sacrifice long term development and health in exchange for short term victories. You end up completely dependant on your most productive players and running them into the ground.

    The only way to truly utilize your full roster is to get everybody on the same page. Owner, GM, Coach, and Players all need to agree to the long term vision.
     
  16. bws

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    I agree. Some people love Brooks from his great season and want him to play and that's cool. He's a fun guy to watch when he's on. Some others just don't want Lin to succeed and don't care if it is Brooks, Beverley, just someone other than Lin whether it is because they don't think he's worth the money, hype, whatever it is there are clearly a bunch of them on this board and all over the net. But Brooks is a weapon used right, I don't think he is a full time player and regarding all of the strengths and weaknesses of the 3 point guards, Lin and Bev need the most minutes, however they are used. They are your best defensive guys, younger, both have much more improvement ahead of them, they have great chemistry with each other on the court and are improving each other's game so Lin and Bev are doing great and they can be a great future for the Rockets. Brooks is a good vet to mentor them and he can come in and light it up at times.
     
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    Sounds nothing like him.

    Harden's ability to attack the rim and draw fouls puts tremendous pressure on defense, and he is also a very good passer, along with being a good rebounder.

    There is a reason why Harden is still putting up ridiculous amount of points at high efficiency despite struggling to shoot with his injured foot.
     
  18. chenjy9

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    I never said he didn't have anything he could do around the process; I said he is a poor finisher. He has to do those crazy looking circus shots when he actually penetrates all the way inside, because he has no way of shooting over people. He is literally too small. All of this does not even involve contact. If someone so much as breathes on AB when he drives inside, its pretty much guaranteed he won't make the shot. There is a reason why he basically shoots as much from downtown as he does from within the 3pt line.
     
  19. mclawson

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    So just hand-wave away evidence to the contrary as "circus shots"? Got it. Carry on.
     
  20. pippsux

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    I like the starting lineup as is with Tjones, Howard, Parsons, Harden and Bev. It is a "know your role" lineup. I also love our bench as is with AB, Lin, Casspi, Garcia and Asik. There is a reason we have been starting games fast and the team wins have piled up.

    Good rotation coach, keep it up and don't change a thing.
     

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