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Brooks or Morey

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Prince, Jan 24, 2011.

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AB or DM

  1. DM is right

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  2. I understand AB

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  3. I don't care

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  4. Both wrong

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It always is......never a contextual fit, always a massive leap.

    It is like hearing Dubya say the war is over.....

    DD
     
  2. Prince

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    wink???
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Prince, you will never get to be King unless you start to listen.

    Come on now, you will rule this place one day, you need to be learning.

    ;)

    DD
     
  4. Prince

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    Clutch > Kings :p
     
  5. morpheus133

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    Isn't it a bit contradictory to say Morey "low balls" players causing chemistry issues, and then complain that he over paid Lowry and Scola? I mean if you really believe that he overpaid them, then doesn't it stand to reason these players would be happy with the end result of being "overpaid"? Do you really think they would have been happier to have a smaller contract offer prior to hitting restricted free agency? There is little reason to believe they would accept a lower contract without at least testing the open market first any way.

    Isn't it equally possible that if Morey had offered lower contracts to Lowry and Scola than they ended up with that that would insult them and cause even more chemistry issues?

    As for the unresolved contract year excuse for bad play, typically contract year is used as a red flag when discussing better than expected play in pro sports. I do think that losing his starting job probably has him down, and I am sure his frustration is increased when he plays poorly on top of that. Blaming it on a Rocket's conspiracy designed to allow them to sign him for cheap next year is silly.
     
  6. choujie

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    Excatly. AB played out of his mind last year scoring wise and he managed to avoid injury and even big shooting slump.

    But AB never had other part of the game to back him up when he can't score like that, either because of injury or because of a slump. In NBA, that kind of things will happen sooner lor later.

    Last season majority of the fans here were willing to pay him around 10 mil, that would be a huge mistake if that happened.

    Scoring simply is way overrated by normal fans. Luckily Morey isn't just a normal fan.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    ROFLMAO !!!

    Yeah, lots of 1-0 games out there....LOL....

    DD
     
  8. choujie

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    What's so funny?

    120 points sitll won't be enough to win the game last night. Scoring is important, but defense is just as imporant if not more.

    Looking at scoring only is foolish, especially under normal efficiency, which was what AB did last year.

    You know what is the most important? Win the game. That means, you can win by scoring better, or defending better, or hustle better when both offense/defense were equal.

    Rockets' scoring has gone up quite a few over the last two years, yet they lost a lot more games.


    If you feel so funny about "scoring is overrated", you are at most a normal fan. That's why your predictions usually get to the wrong side.
     
  9. Prince

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    Ultimately, Morey will be judged by how Rockets perform this year. And pls, don't tell me Yao is the excuse cuz DM didn't expect him to be the same he was before the surgery.
     
  10. choujie

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    I don't really think it's fair to judge Morey just base on this year. He lost Tmac and Yao in two years, there is simply not enough seasons to make the team contender on the fly.

    Nobody could keep the team as a contender for losing 2 superstars in 2 years. Not to mention Rockets wasn't really a contender before that.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    If he didn't he wouldn't have signed a dinosaur to play Center.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I have said it 1000000000 times......defense at the PG is not as important as at the rim, the new "no touching on the perimeter" rules along with carrying being allowed do not allow for much quality D at the PG spot.

    Thus the difference is negated...look how many people thought Lowry was a great defender only to find out that he is average at best.

    DD
     
  13. choujie

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    Now you shift the topic from scoring is overrated to something else.

    Anyway, average defender is still much better than one of the worst defender. Defense at the rim is more important, that part I agree. But peremeter defense is also very important, otherwise your big men will be in foul trouble all game long with the way the game is being called nowadays.
    Lowry/Martin isn't great on defense, but still way better than AB/Martin combo.

    And of course there are other things like hustle and rebounding and running the team, which Lowry is better than AB. Those contributes to winning more than just a couple points in shooting percentage.

    Let's say it this way: 10% of difference in shooting percentage only gives you 2 more points per 10 possesions. One steal resulting a fastbreak in 10 possesions might just do the same trick. Yet everybody thought 10% shooting difference is a big deal, but nobody notices that a couple steals might already made up for that.


    That's why scoring is overrated by normal fans.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I don't agree that lowry is better at running the team, I do agree he is a better defender (though that is not showing much this year either), and that Brooks is the better offensive player (though not so far this year)....

    We have done this before Chouije, not going to do anything more than spam the board back and forth and no agreement.

    All we end up doing is going...

    You are the average fan !

    No, you are !

    No, You !

    No, You !

    You don't know basketball what are you 12?

    NO, I am 15, and play AAU....I knows me hoops.

    Still, you are an average fan.

    No you are,

    No, you !

    Rinse repeat, rinse repeat.

    DD
     
  15. choujie

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    LOL. In my original reply, I didn't say it was you. I just said in general normal fans overrate scoring. Ther are so many normal fans on the board, and it's not a surprise that happens often.

    But guess what? You jumped in to laugh at "scoring is overrated" and try to make yourself look like a normal fan. So I had to agree.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    It's cool, it is hard to remember when you are discussing ball that many people are only 15-25, and don't really know it all that well.

    Though they think they do.

    ;)

    DD
     
  17. Prince

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    like Hill and Miller?
     
  18. Easy

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    Brooks should be extra motivated because this is his CONTRACT YEAR.

    I can understand if he is frustrated because of the injury and the loss of his starting role because of that.

    The remainder of the season will show what he is made of. A tough minded guy will gather himself and prove his worth. A weak minded player will let his frustration get the better of him and crumble.

    BTW, why is it the GM's job of managing players' egos? Isn't it the coach's job?
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Agreed.

    Ultimately when you are the top dog, everything is your responsibility.

    And, IMO, Morey talks too much about trades and is too evident in the press about the needs of the team etc.

    And the fact that the Rox are underacheiving and are mentioned in every trade, and Morey shows up with an Ipad and markets to the masses that he did that, then it creates an unease among the players that are on the roster.

    Some react with a care free attitude, like Battier, others worry a bit like Scola, and others may worry a lot...(Brooks? )....

    But either way, I wish the Rox management would be a little less public....

    DD
     

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