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Brooks current status and his future in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by anchel, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

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    So many people are eager to get rid of AB to get Lowry to start.

    Lowry will get his chance again in training camp to take the job from Brooks, hopefully, people will finally get behind this guy.

    There is a reason Melo listed Houston as a destination, and playing with Aaron Brooks is one of the main ones.

    And, he will be the guy driving the team again this year......his PPG may dip a bit, but overall his efficiency and assits will go way up.

    What I worry about is paying $6 million for a backup PG, and whether the team can afford that, you don't worry about what the starters make...

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  2. RedRedemption

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    He might be backup but he doesn't play backup minutes. He plays near 22-26 minutes a game. Those aren't backup minutes. Those are sixth man minutes.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Wait, what?

    Isn't the 6th man a backup?

    And Landry was essentially the 6th man, and he was traded.......

    You usually try to trade your backups for starters if you can.....

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  4. RedRedemption

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    Just saying that he's not just any ordinary backup. Lowry is more important than you think. I'd go as far as saying he's a better fit with Melo than Brooks is...
     
  5. DaDakota

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    A. We don't have Melo, and probably are not going to be getting him.

    B. If we do get Melo part of the reason he wants to play here is because of playing with Brooks.

    C. Brooks is better than Lowry

    D. Lots of people have problems understanding C.

    DD
     
  6. durvasa

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    So backups never become starters. If you're a 6th man, you stay a backup for your career. Is that it?

    Once upon a time, Brooks was a backup, and we traded our starter so that he could start.

    Edit: n/m I didn't read your previous post, so I missed the context. Sorry.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Let's see how they play this season with Yao.

    If Brooks improves his game (particularly his passing) a big extension for him might be justified.

    If Lowry improves his game (particularly his shooting) then it might be worth "selling high" on Brooks.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Did Melo say that?
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Don't be silly Durvasa, of course they can.

    They get a chance every single year to beat out the starters, so far, the naked truth is that Lowry has never beaten out anyone, he is a career backup player.

    Doesn't mean he sucks, means he is not good enough to start on any team he has been on, yet.

    There are big flaws in his game, a severe lack of a jumpshot. It is the reason that the little tank is more of an energy change of pace guy off the bench.

    If he got better at the jumpshot, or even developed a little stop and pop he could certainly unseat Brooks.

    But if you compare the growth of the two players, you see Brooks adding a ton of moves to his game...the step back, the flip off the glass, left handed, right handed, the deep 3 ball, the midrange stop and pop....he has added a ton.

    Lowry, on the other hand, still has 2 basic moves....a bull his way to the rim move and a midrange jump shot......he does not have a starters NBA game.

    He would get exposed as the starter in no time as teams would force him into doing something other than he is comfortable doing.

    I understand people like him, me too......but Brooks is MILES better than Lowry, it is not even close.

    There is a reason that all the coaches and players are so complimentary of AB......it is baffling why folks here can not see what everyone else sees.

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  10. Dave_78

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    There are two sides of the court. There is also only one ball to go around. Keep those things in mind as you overrated the non-defending, non-passing guy of yours.

    Brooks isn't a starter on a contending team. Lowry might be.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Yes there are two sides and Lowry is a better defender, no doubt.

    Let's see again who starts on this team, Lowry or Brooks...because the better player will be the one playing the starting role and more than 30 minutes a game.

    People blame others for overating Brooks, well this is a clear case of overating Lowry.....the guy is a very good backup PG....

    Very good, and would be a starter on some teams....like Cleveland, that is why they offered him the contract.

    But it wasn't the Lakers offering, or the Magic, or any other big named team, was it?

    Lowry is vastly overated on this board....vastly.

    A great bulldog off the bench to attack the basket against tired players....and draw fouls....as a starter, not so effective.



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    You complain about everyone overrating Kyle Lowry yet you overrate Chase Budinger. Budinger is the definition of a career role player. Decent enough to play rotational minutes, but not good enough to start. :rolleyes:
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Not germaine to the discussion at all, and a rookie player versus a career backup?

    If Chase is a backup by year 5, then yeah, he probably will be labled as such, because that is what he would be.....

    Sort of like Lowry is now....a career backup......

    Look, this will be decided in training camp again, let's see who starts, that is who is the better player....

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    It is getting less and less likely that we make a deal for Melo as the time pases. Lowry is my favorite player on the team, but Brooks IS better than him. He's a better shooter, quicker, drives/finishes better, and handles better. Lowry is better at defense, and passing, but Brooks is still better IMO, I would hate to see him go.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    I don't want to see either of them go, I want to see this team play as assembled...all the pieces fit.

    Lowry is great, he gets to come in against tired starters, or the 2nd unit players and attack the basket and draw fouls..

    A great role for him, he is a game changer......

    We are lucky to have such a good backup PG.

    DD
     
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    Lowry can play like Deron Williams, and he still won't be a starter. Adelman is too loyal to his players, that's why at every stop, his GM had to force his hand by trading players.

    see Chris Webber, Peja, Jason Williams.
     
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    Rafer, Ariza
     
  18. Dave_78

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    If Brooks is starting the Rockets are not contending. If Lowry is starting it means Brooks was moved in order to bring a better player so the Rockets can contend.

    That's the way I've seen it for a year now and I truly believe Morey agrees based on his repeated praise for Kyle, his "Lowry is the most important player on the team" comment and the fact he just gave him a very generous deal.

     
  19. DaDakota

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    Aha, so the reason that Lowry doesn't start is because of Adelman's loyalty to his starters.

    What was the reason he couldn't beat out Mike Conley in Memphis?

    I don't want to talk bad about Kyle, but he is just not good enough to start.

    The holes in his game get exposed as teams prepare more to play against him...go lookup his playoff stats...both Brooks and Lowry have 1 year of playoff experience....compare the two....

    Brooks is better, maybe Lowry will one day supplant him.

    Maybe one day the courage of men will fail, but it is not this day.....NOT THIS DAY....this day we fight !

    ;)


    DD
     
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