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Brooks current status and his future in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by anchel, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Yao for Brook Lopez right? the good one? HELL YEAH!!
     
  2. Rocket4Life11

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    Are you saying Brook would bring the Rockets closer to a chip than Yao?
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Yep, a lot of it is due to his health etc, but yes.

    DD
     
  4. Dave_78

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    Just like Brooks brought them a Championship last year.

    Brooks is a 20 ppt scorer on a lottery team, a third option on a playoff team and a sixth man on a contender.
     
  5. larsv8

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    1st option, 3rd option blah blah

    That doesn't have any meaning. Players don't set up thier half court and go down some list of who gets the ball first, second, etc.
     
  6. Rocket4Life11

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    I gotta disagree with you here...

    Brook Lopez has a great future ahead of him no doubt. He just hasn't shown that he can make his teammates better. His rookie year, the Nets were 24th in defense, and a year later they were worst (25th). Not to mention... only 12 wins in the EC. While AB helped the Rockets to 42 wins in the much tougher WC.

    The year before Yao came into the league, the Rockets were 29th in defense, in his rookie year he helped the Rox to 14th, and it only gets better after that(5th, 3rd, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 4th). The Rockets should be right back up there this year(barring any setbacks from Yao).

    I'd rather keep Yao for now and see what happens.... This will be a special year.... Book it!
     
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  7. Dave_78

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    So everyone on the court has the same chance of taking the shot on each offensive possession? Awesome.
     
  8. larsv8

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    No, the offense is set up where the opposing defense has to make a choice of which shot to concede to the offense.

    One of five things is going to happen in our offense.

    1.) A fast break will be run when there is a long rebound and the defenders arent set.
    2.) The ball will run through the post, either Scola or Yao and the shot taken will result on how the defense plays it. If theres a double, the call will get rotated to an open shooter. Solo coverage, the post player takes it.
    3.) The motion offense will be set up on the high post and the offense will take what the defense gives it.
    4.) There will be an isolation play by one of the wings. Usually happens when time is a constraint.
    5.) Any other misc, non design, or rarely run play. Battier post up, etc.

    First option, second option are basketball buzzwords used by people who dont actually know the game. Any coach outside of highschool would never utter that crap.
     
  9. MorningZippo

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    I think you're being too extreme. Of course options exist. I promise coaches "utter" them all the time. Any play we run that isn't motion offense will have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option.

    For instance a standard post up play off the low block. We go into our set. Battier on the wing with Yao on the same side of the court on the low block. Shane throws it into Yao, and then he runs a cut off of him to the other side of the court. If Battier's defender stays with Yao, then Yao hits him on the cut, if his defender stays with him, (which 99% of the time he will) Yao has a 1v1 chance with his defender.

    Since Battier just cleared out, Yao wont be doubled from his blind side. If no other defender doubles, and Battier's defender is following him. Yao is the 1st option

    If Yao gets doubled from another defender on the far side of the court, the now open player either spots up or cuts to the hoop. I imagine this being Kevin Martin if our starting 5 stays the same. K-Mart is now our number 2 option.

    So either way, Yao is considered the first option in the offense. If a coach likes to run this play more than any other play, then Yao is the "first option" on our team.

    Another play we have involves K-Mart curling off the screen as the first option. Since that play is used less than Yao's play, but more than every other play, K-Mart now becomes the 2nd option on the team.

    So a Coach probably doesn't need to say "first option" or "second option" to his team mates, but they definitely exist, and everybody on the team knows who is who.
     
  10. larsv8

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    There may be a defined first option ^ - Kobe, Durant, etc. but there is no way that there is a defined pecking order or who gets touches. Thats would be idiotic.
     
  11. leibs2002

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    no team can win a title when they have a player take up 17 million a year(Yao) who never plays. no team can withstand that. he is hurting the **** out of us. he needs to make it through a season or retire. go look at other teams top salaries. yao should make 2.5 mil a year. he is a bum

     
  12. leibs2002

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    he should pay the rockets 30 million dollars back
     
  13. Spiegel

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    I would take Lopez over a broken down Yao for sure.Lopez is young qwho hasnt even come close to reaching his potential and is allready a very good C. Plus he dosent have a chronic set of injuriers like Yao.
     
  14. leibs2002

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    give me yao in his first 3 years when he was soft and didnt get hurt over yao now that is awesome when he plays( but he never plays). give me anyone. he is like having a really bad ass used car, that constantly has to go to the shop and get fixed. it really hurts a team from reaching their potential. at least yao understands this and knows if he gets seriously hurt again he needs to hang it up
     
  15. Dave_78

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    Nobody said anything about a pecking order the amount of touches. You've back yourself into a corner where you have to make a strawman out of what I have said.

    I'll rephrase anyway:

    Brooks is a 20 ppg scorer on a lottery team, the third best option on offense as a starter on a playoff team and a sixth man on a contender.
     
  16. TheFreak

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    You may have forgotten that the Rockets were in the playoffs two years ago.
     
  17. ASidd_1990

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    Brooks was the 3rd option behin Yao and Artest. Duh!
     
  18. Dave_78

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    I didn't.
     
  19. valorita

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    i think that yao's next contract should be 5 mil/year with a 5mil in yearly bonuses if he is able to play 60+ games and 5mil more if he plays in playoffs.

    although i don't think it's yao's fault that he is getting paid. he doesn't get injured on purpose and each time he does, he tries his best to come back. it's not like he is a lazy bum that just collects checks.

    speaking of lazy bums, we live in a country where masses of people live off of welfare even when they have nothing wrong with them. isn't it something like 20-30% of the population support the economy and everyone else is leeching? i digress...
     
  20. TheFreak

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    Then you should watch those games again.
     

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