lowry is nowhere near being overpaid. nba players are making more and more. if you compare salaries from 1 year ago, they are going up. brendan haywood signed a 6 year 55 million dollar deal with dallas. that is being overpaid. rudy gay's contract is being overpaid. lowry 6 mil per year is what he should be paid
This is all you can do when confronted with facts. I wouldn't want to address the issues either if I were you. This is hilarious, but I wish he would stop doing it in every thread. He really ruins a lot of good discussions. I agree with NIKEstrad, people should stop feeding the troll.
Yeah, sure, it is all me. Love all the pots calling the kettle black, I am just in here talking to myself. LOL DD
Just because you don't overpay like the knicks doesn't mean you didn't over pay by almost 2m. Before the cap bump, lowry was a 4m player at best, but with teams losing players and the bump in the cap, teams had extra so the paid extra.No way lowry gets full mle if there wasnt this bump. Hell, i doubt scola wouldve gotten more than mle before the contracts. Morey let the market set the players price and it cost him extra money. Thats not to say lowry is a bad player, its just that he's a maybe 20 minute backup making almost 6m. With martin here and yao returning, I'm not sure how many minutes lowry will get this year anyway. BTW, why are posters calling DD a troll? I don't get it, but oh well
I've never called anyone a troll. In fact, i don't even have people on my ignore list. Its not that major to me. I disagree with posters all the time, but as long as we can agree to disagree, I'm good. Hell I'm an old dude with grown kids, i don't have the time to argue with the sub 23 yr olds with no responsibilities.
It's b/c you keep repeating the same flawed arguments. And when confronted with these flaws, instead of addressing them, you go off on irrelevant tangents. And inevitably, the conversation comes full circle and you once again repeat those same, flawed arguments. And so on and so forth. Are these not the habits of a troll?
Only folks who disagree with my viewpoints about this topic consider them flawed. I consider the Lowry should start brigade 100% wrong, and completely flawed. Doesn't mean I think they are trolls, though does it....and they are arguing in the same circles....heck Wekko...you and I have gone on this very topic many times......in circles. Doesn't mean I think you are a troll, just because you are wrong. It takes more than one to argue.....but of course, it is my fault.....I am the biggest target I guess. DD
Incorrect. Flawed arguments are flawed arguments. There have been several times when I have agreed with your views, but your arguments supporting your views have been illogical. The only reason that you and I have argued in circles is b/c you dodge questions and go off on irrelevant questions. I do not. If someone believes that there are errors in my thought process, I address them directly.
I disagree, Leeb. Lowry got his contract offer from one of the best teams in the league, at least until James bailed on them. Kyle got what the market dictated and Morey matched, after deciding that he was worth it. Besides, I could argue your comment anyway by simply pointing out that the threat of the new CBA is causing many teams to become cautious and cut back. We've read reams about it here. And Scola getting MLE money? Don't make me laugh! Well, hell... I laughed regardless, but laughing at your statement avoids the salient point. With all due respect, you are so freakin' wrong. I would like you to show me a reputable source that even speculated that Luis would get MLE money. Heck, that he was worth only MLE money. Go ahead. A "reputable source" from Clutchfans doesn't count. OK, except for Clutch. He thought that we should keep Luis over Carl if we had to move one. That implies to me that Clutch thinks Scola was worth more than MLE money, if one assumes that our starting 4, compared to the salaries of the rest of the starting 4's in this league that have anywhere near his production, is worth better than MLE money. That's a safe assumption on my part, unless you can disprove it. I await your response with baited breath. (how do you "bait breath?" I've always wondered about that. Use an extra large hook? An elusive lure??) You mean excepting those times when someone in a discussion with him fears that their brain will explode? It's a quandary. If DaDakota is really a troll, why hasn't he turned to stone? He's an equal opportunity poster. Night and day, day and night... the sun should have made a stone "Buddha DaDa" by now, don't you think? Buddha DaDa. Irony abounds! DD would know the irony of which I speak.
Indeed. I won't "bait my breath" waiting for The One True Word, but I'll be polishing the edge of my seat!
Pretty sure the initial argument was who is the bigger trade bait, and who is a better fit when Melo is on the team. I don't know how this whole thing became a Lowry should start thing. I don't think anybody ever doubted Brooks is a better player. In fact, I'm pretty sure there have been several posts emphasizing the fact that Brooks is the better player and should start with the current lineup. Though once we bring in a proven scorer like Melo, it becomes a different story.
Or it could mean that his contract expired first. Edit: this has probably been beaten to death; I just popped in at the end of the thread so I don't know.
Yes it has been beaten to death Most people thought Morey overpaid Lowry, but if Morey was willing to pay that much for Lowry he probably plans to keep him around for a while. Of course circumstances could change, such as the growth of Budinger making Ariza redundant (and the fact that Ariza wasn't doing as well as we hoped for him to do). Morey thinks he is worth the money, which many do not. However, as of now, it would seem Morey is keen on keeping Lowry around. Thus, that would probably put Brooks ahead of Lowry on the trade block. Like I said, these are the circumstances now, but things could easily change within the next year.
I've been missing out on a very interesting thread, but after a little catching up. Reading the back and forth and the direction this thread has taken. I'll do a little trolling, or whatever it is. You guys call it. First off, if Lowery was over paid it isn't by much and is not a albatross contract like many are making it out to be. If indeed he was over paid, it was set by the market. Morey paid what other teams were willing to pay. Morey's options? Either match it and add the stock to your pantry or let it walk and get nothing. Remember Lowery was traded here and the Rockets would not only lose Lowery(asset), but lose the asset(Rafer) they trade Lowery for. Thus losing any benefit from trading Rafer to begin with. Dollar in dollar out, if you send money out you better be getting something in return. Now, as far as what Morey paid that asset?, actually becomes part of that asset. Does it have a negative impact or a positive impact on "that asset"? Imo, it was neutral, to a neutral-positive, That's all in the eye of the beholder, because it depend on who wants that asset and what do they want it for. Is it a salary dump, a filler, a back-up, a starter? But, Did Morey really over pay? Now I'm not gonna throw numbers out there, but you have to step back and look at the whole picture. Morey paid what other teams were willing to pay, now some say he still over paided because it was a players market and teams over paid and this is true. With the CBA fixing to change the rules a bit and being a players market, let's ask ourself "how big was the bubble and is it over?". Keep in mind, that everything eventually evens outs. So is it a big bubble or a small hiccup? Besides the bubble, and back to the asset it's self. Will this asset appreciate or depreciate? Lowery is a backup, paid like a starter but really plays the sixth man role. With his age and his skill level and all things considered, IMO Morey might have slightly over paid in the short run but will even out as the dust settles. Remember something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. And from the looks of all the chatter around here of Lowery taking Brooks job, I'd say Morey underpaid?? Do teams want Lowery? Is he gonna get better or worst? Is he worth what he's getting paid? Frankly, it's in the eye of the beholder and yet to be seen. As far as this is a sign that Lowery is in and Brooks is out, BS.!! Everyone is trying to play armchair GM. Morey couldn't let as asset walk and it was the right move. The market set the price and Morey matched it, simple. Brooks is just as much as likely to be traded as much as Lowery, but I don't see either going anywhere until the trade deadline. BTW Brooks is gonna be big this year!!!
So we should trade Yao for Brook Lopez then, right? And yes, I would trade AB for a better player...DWill please. DD
