I guess you missed the part where you said to take everything Morey said for a grain of salt. Don't hate on Lowry or any other player who threatens your favourite players' positions. Lowry is just as important as Brooks to the team, and Morey's act of resigning him supports this.
Once again, this is posted only for informational purposes. Who Posted? Total Posts: 359 Username Posts DaDakota 58 chenjy9 24 MightyMog 23 leibs2002 21 choujie 17 leebigez 15 wekko368 15
So, you say,,"Don't hate on Lowry" when you guys are slamming Brooks....lol....whatever. Yes, Kyle is important, having a good backup at every position is key to withstanding injuries etc. What both sides of this argument need to look for is minute distribution, if one or the other starts to get marginalized by Lee, you can bet someone will be going. If Lee can be the backup PG for example, Lowry would probably be traded, or if Lowry starts hitting his 3ball consitently and getting a more varied game other than just drive into the lane....then Brooks might go. The problem that most people are missing here, is that it is hard to trade both of them this year. 1. Lowry has to approve any trade and can't be traded until after Dec 15th. 2. Brooks is underpaid and will be due a big raise, any club trading for him has to be willing to pay him the 7-10 million he would be getting on the open market.... I don't think either gets moved.....and I am perfectly happy with the status quo... Hey Teacher...DaDakota is chewing gum !!!! Thanks Clutch....you are such a big big help posting numbers about how many posts, when everyone could just look it up on their own. I hope to see you posting the same thing in the JVG vs Adelman thread. Providing such an important service to the community, and in turn raising your post count. Thanks...k.....!! Just think of all the $$$ that is generated from the clicking on this thread. :grin: DD
What? No way !!!! Not sure I see your point Nike, of course he matched, you don't let assets walk for nothing, now do you? DD
I agree with this. Except for this- I don't think Lee has any ability to play the point. I mean, he's averaged 1.4 assist per game for his career. He is going to play the swing position exclusively. Just because he is only 6-5 doesn't mean he is going to be used at PG. His assist ratio is at Kevin Martin's level, and Kevin Martin is a scorer. He's also turnover prone.
When they asked morey who he gets the most phone calls about, brooks first, ariza 2nd. He said he gets more callas about brooks than anyone on the team, yet you're trying to tell me lowry has a higher trade value? I highly doubt that and with you saying roy is overrated and batum is a star? C'mon, please tell me you're at least trying to be funny a little bit. This debate will go on and on and to those that hold brooks up, the others don't see it and vice versa. Its the same characters on both sides arguing for and against. I didn't like the pick until after i got a chance to watch some scouts film. After that, i was pushing his rookie yr to be the starter. His 2nd year, he shouldve never ben sent back to the bench, but adelman has a thing for vets. Bottomline, just my imo, brooks is the rockets best player, period. Now if yao can come back, play 35+ minutes and not get injured for a whole season and play like he did last year, i might change my mind. Brooks has special qualities that alot of players don't have in this league set by the rules. Yao has special qualities too, but he cn't stay healthy and is too easily taken out the game. Lowry is just a backup who can draw fouls and change the pace. If you can upgrade the sf and it takes brooks to do it, I'm all for it. Trading brooks just to play lowry is a step back. I think if lowry was all what people think he is, he would've beaten out someone by now or started by now either in memphis or houston. Just let it be known, alot of people wanted lowry on this team ahead of rafer way before he was traded here, so its not like the posters supporting brooks are anti lowry. Both pg's are better than what we had by a long shot. Those who were up in arms and overrating rafer are the same who are doing the same with lowry. I'm not saying lowry isn't a starter in this league, he's just a starter on certain teams. If you have a team full of finishers, lowry probably would be a good option. His best asset is setting guys up, pushing the break, and stuff like that. If the offense is your pg like the triangle and adelman's offense, he's not a good fit without the ball. There is a reason he's played with landry,chase,and von on the 2nd units.
Probably not, but Lee has talked about playing badkup PG and getting ready for that, which I found pretty odd, being that we have 2 good PGs already. And Morey mentioned using Lee to guard some of the more physical PGs.... A lot of Lowry's minutes were with Brooks last year, if Lowry loses out on those minutes to Lee, I could see him being moved because you don't want to pay a guy $6 million a year for 12 minutes a game. DD
I could see Lee playing alongside Brooks and GUARDING the other team's PG. Like when we are playing against Deron Williams or Chris Paul, that would make sense. But Brooks would still handle the PG duties on the offensive side.
Agreed, and if that happens a lot, or Lowry loses a significant portion of his playing time, what then? All of this will play out, and I honestly still think Adelman has too many players right now for everyone to get their time...... It will be a juggling act for sure. DD
Actually id rather have Lowry start over brooks. I think Lowry's playing style suits better with our current starting lineup with Yao. We could have brooks come off the bench early during the game and have him in late in games becuase of his ability to score. I also think Brooks coming off as 6th man would cause more havoc on other teams becuase he can play more to his style and be the #1 option instead of being the 2nd or 3rd on the starting lineup.
I don't really think think lee can gaurd pg's at least not from what I've seen. He's a good defender, not great, just good. He can't guard the bigger,stronger points in the league, nor can he guard the bigger,stronger sg's either. He's like a po,minus the or, version of elie without the attitude which is what made elie the player he was. I guess late game defensive subs, you could see lowry,lee,battier,jeffries,and chuck on the floor if its last shot type of thing.
Whose slamming on Brooks? I certainly am not. As far as I'm concerned, the initial argument was the better fit for this team if we take Melo into consideration. As far as I'm concerned a large portion of people agreed Brooks would be traded and Lowry kept if we went after Melo. I think Brooks is the better player, but with more scorers around Lowry would be the better fit.
Whats funny about this whole brooks off the bench argument is always tied to jason terry. The problem is, when terry was the starting pg, they went to the finals and since he's been on the bench, they haven't had nearly the success. The mavs have been finsing ways to take the leadership burden and toughness burden off dirk for so long, they displaced players in doing so. Terry played well in the playoffs and the finals and yet people want to use that as an example. Most of those same people never saw terry in atl when he was 18-7asst. Is he a prototype pg? Nope, but adelman and his system uses the offense as the pg. I don't care what the 2nd unit is like. If you're first unit is good enough, you're 2nd unti can be garbage and win a title. The only legit person la really has coming off the bench is odom who isn't a starter because he really doesn't like the pressure of having to produce all the time. Other than that, they have what? Thats what I thought.
I think if Yao is healthy, the offense will run through him, and we'll need Brooks for spacing and to make double teams pay.
Ya if Yao is healthy, the offense will and should run through him and i was thinking about that also that brooks will help tremendously with his 3pt shooting. Im a fan of both brooks and lowry and i just want them to play in roles that helps them and the team.
Its hard for people to understand..........its really not hard. The problem in this case is 1 poster, hates Melo so much because if we are to trade, we would lose either AB or KM....shudder even Chase. 1 poster, just wants to twist the whole thing on who passes the ball better to Yao because we already know his stance on Yao 1 Poster, just wants to throw the 3 letter "YOF" around because well, its a such a hip thing to do. Pretty much stop responding, that's what i plan on doing because what you stated was exactly what most folks are saying in regards to AB. Starter/Trade bait for better player = great regardless what happens.
