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Brooks current status and his future in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by anchel, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. leibs2002

    leibs2002 Member

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    only because of his china votes. he has been hurt for 3 years. he is not an all star. even when healthy he isn't a top 10 player and never has been


     
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  2. leibs2002

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    his first 3 years when he was healthy he was soft as balls. then once he did start to show dominance, he has always been hurt. all i am saying is that so far yao has been the only one slowing down this team. not that it is his fault he breaks his feet all the time. but just because yao has made the all star team every year and has been the 2nd best center, he has never been a game changer. if he was a true all star. if he played this year we would just dominate. we are worse without yao, but we have never been a whole lot worse
     
  3. leibs2002

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    we become worse when yao goes out, because he stops us from ever getting size. we need to take him off the bench and make him the 6th man of the year

    yaos stats need to look like this 14.6 pts, 6.4 rebounds in 24 minutes in 65 games.

    just get his ass to the playoffs
     
  4. wekko368

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    Seems like a lottery team is a whole lot worse than a 2nd round playoff team.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Its like a revolt against Jabba the Hut in here.
     
  6. leibs2002

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    seems like 42-40 isn't that much worse. he makes us worse. but we can always hold on for half a season when he goes out. just not 82 games cause we had no size or depth last year. i mean we we won the final 10 games of our 22 game streak without him. then we took the jazz to 6. then we were down 2-1 to the lakers with him. without him we took the lakers to 7, winning 2 of 4 games with no yao. if you were to tell me a team could take the lakers to 7 without yao, if he was a superstar then him playing would make us instant champions. but even if he were to stay healthy he doesn't necessarily put us over the top.

    think about the top teams - their best players or superstars. they suck, they cant win. we have always at least been a 500 team without yao. he makes us better, just not as much better as he should, if he were as good as everyone thinks
     
  7. leibs2002

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    then factor in that he hasn't made it through a season since 06-07 and he has no value. if he can make it through one season, that is all i want

    brooks>yao hands down
    brooks is our leader
     
  8. roslolian

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    Are you serious? Most of the people here want Melo on the team and he makes 18M all by himself already.

    16M for one position isn't bad if the backup is already included. I don't see what tough about resigning Brooks at all, you get him to sign a hometown discount and offer him 7M a year, and if he balks you let the market decide. If someone offers him more than 10+M a year then let him walk, otherwise match the highest offer after waiting the maximum time possible in order to piss off the team which offered him a high contract. Or, trade him and other assets to get CP3. Either way works fine.
     
  9. roslolian

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    Yao a 6th man? Are you kidding me?! Why would we sit our highest paid player on the bench? You start Yao then give Miller 20M a night.
     
  10. leibs2002

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    because i don't like playing the guy and then when he goes out our offense is all screwed up. when a guy is not dependable, which he isn't, i don't want to start him. let him do what he does which is score unbelievably efficient. lowry can feed him the ball and cbud. we will have a bench that could compete with the starters. then if yao goes out, brooks, martin, battier, scola, and miller can still play together. yes i want the guy that played 0 games last year to come off the bench. at least for most of the year. maybe if he is still playing by april we can insert him into the starting lineup
     
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    Good work leibs2000.
    WTH all of a sudden.
     
  12. leibs2002

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    he is too injury prone to start
     
  13. Grigori

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    The Brooks lovers get abused so often here a revolt just to get a rise out of somebody else for a change is inevitable. If you think this is bad, then you haven't seen the revolt of the likewise abused Nicholas Batum lovers over at the Blazers forum. It ended in almost two weeks of trolling as Nicholas Batum became the future of the Blazers franchise and Brandon Roy turned into the second-most overrated player in the NBA.

    I mean, Brooks is not bad, and if he ever plays some defense he may even get voted to an All-Star reserve appearance for once, but seriously, before we go all outlier on the bright future of everybody's second-favorite D-Leaguer Rocket, let us take a deep breath and remember that the last time a D-Leaguer got voted to MIP before Brooks, it was young Bobby Simmons as a fourth-year pro in '05.

    Brooks' starting job is probably safe up until the trade deadline. After that, look for Lowry to take over regardless of whether Brooks has been moved or not.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I guess we will all have to wait and see who the starter is, and who plays the most minutes.

    Because only then will "SCOREBOARD" be said.

    And...trust me sports fans...it will be said....A LOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bwhaahhaahahahah

    DD
     
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    Aparently you most of missed the many statements about AB is the starter but we would happily trade him for Melo(assuming Denver wanted him) because we have a capable PG who can defend, pass, run the offense with Melo taking his 20+ shots a game.

    But if we keep AB, than great let's watch him play and continue to be the starter until the next trade happens.

    AB value > KL Value
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    AB's value is higher because he is better than Kyle.

    And statements are meaningless about trading AB, Kyle is just as likely to be traded.

    Morey tries to trade backups for starters, unless it is jettising players that don't fit like Ariza.

    DD
     
  17. Raven

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    He'd be a terrific spark plug off the bench.

    Just saying.
     
  18. Grigori

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    No on both counts. Lowry's value is higher than Brooks; Lowry is not just as likely to be traded because he is more likely to be traded.

    Those who prefer to keep Brooks over Lowry can rest easy knowing that Lowry has much more trade value than Brooks does right now and is far more likely to be traded than Brooks is. Brooks has almost no trade value at the moment. If we end up moving one of our PGs for a star player, Lowry will probably be the one moved simply because no GM wants Brooks. Brooks will be the first guy Morey offers in every single consolidation trade proposal from now until the trade deadline, but it will take a minor miracle to get another GM to bite on Brooks. I'm not saying that Morey can't work minor miracles, but if he does it will take a lot more than a few Jedi mind tricks.

    What little trade value Brooks may have from his few upsides (slashing, outside shooting, etc.) is nullified by his current contract situation. I think that there is barely any GM who actually wants to pay Brooks more than $4.5 mil a year next offseason, but almost every GM expects some other scrub GM to offer Brooks MLE+ money. This effectively makes Brooks a one-year rental to most GMs (including Morey) despite Brooks' status as a restricted free agent next offseason. Once the trade deadline is past, keeping Brooks' minutes and shot attempts up to inflate his value will go from beneficial to detrimental as we try to re-sign him to a bench contract to provide bench offense.

    Once the trade deadline is past, look for Lowry to mysteriously and suddenly "earn" starter-level playing time from Brooks to un-inflate Brooks' value for the offseason (not that it needs much un-inflating to begin with) and to position the Rockets higher in the playoffs (assuming, of course, that neither PG is moved and that fragile little b*stard Yao hasn't gotten his brittle bones injuried again as we watch our "near All-Stars" play full seasons without injury and still all-star us right into the NBA lottery).
     
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  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You guys are in for a very long frustrating season watching Aaron Brooks continue to start, play well, and get even better.

    The signing of Lee will begin to marginalize Kyle, I guess you guys missed Morey talking about how they now have Lee to guard some of the bigger PGs in the league because they didn't have anyone that could do that.

    Scoreboard suckas !!!

    DD
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    I think Brooks should start, but I'm not sure why Brooks starting is scoreboard. There have been cases of the better player coming off the bench.
     

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