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Brooks current status and his future in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by anchel, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. leibs2002

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    shooters keep shooting. you think kobe didn't help his team the 6-24 game. as bad as he played they wouldn't have won without him. he had 15 offensive rebounds. nothing is wrong with taking 16.2 shots to score 19.6 points
     
  2. leibs2002

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    i meant 15 rebounds for kobe. my bad. not offensive. i am not a moron
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Like you said, when Kobe was tossing blanks, he was also rebounding. I also bet he was passing as well. Being the mediocre playmaker, poor rebounder, and horrible defender that he is, what else can he do when he is shooting blanks like Kobe? No one is taking away from AB that he is a great scorer and shooter, but like I said, he only helps the team in one single way.
     
  4. leibs2002

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    well when he is off like that and if he isn't helping in other ways, its up to adelman to go with lowry and figure it out. he does that sometimes, especially if brooks is shooting like crap and lowry comes in and plays well. but i still think you need to start brooks
     
  5. leibs2002

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    last year for a lot of the year we had no depth. if brooks is just chunking up crap, i agree with you to go with lowry. but if brooks is on, watch out.
     
  6. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I think the only reason that AB starts over Lowry is because last season we had no scorers. However, if the Rockets do manage to pick up another scorer, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we let go AB as part of the trade.
     
  7. leibs2002

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    thats the beauty of our team though. our backup unit is almost as good as the starting unit. we could basically trade anyone and move our backup to a starter outside of scola
     
  8. leibs2002

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    you have to trade talent to get talent
     
  9. daywalker02

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    T-mac never shot the percentage from downtown that AB has. Care to look at the hotzones? AB is no CP3. We all know that.
    Of course he can improve on that, it is not a glaring weakness although that is why the Melo Talk came up.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    I seldomly cite DD but he is right about when someone who shoots around or better than 40 percent from downtown, he is effective and should keep on shooting on a reasonable basis.
     
  11. Grigori

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    At this point, no team appears to want to touch Brooks with a ten-foot pole. Much of it is no doubt because they expect some noob GM to overpay the full MLE+ for Brooks this offseason, which teams won't want to match (in which case, they lose Brooks for nothing). When it turns out that not even a noob GM will sign Brooks to more than $4.5 mil per year next offseason, Rockets will re-sign Brooks. When Brooks re-signs for $3.9 mil per year, he will finally have trade value.

    The way I see it, if a team signs Brooks to $5.5 mil this offseason, then Brooks is gone. Adelman will continue to start Brooks until the trade deadline to keep Brooks' trade value up in hope of a deal, but alas, I don't see any team biting on Brooks. We can sit here and homer up 50 posts a day about how great Brooks is in hope of "consolidating" him for a star player, but let's face it, other teams just aren't falling for it at all.

    I mean, I read a lot of other team forums. I see all kinds of let's get Battier, let's get Lee, let's get Lowry, let's get Hill, let's get Jeffries, let's get Martin, let's get Chuck friggin Hayes. Let's get Brooks? Not one. Brooks is obviously not a player teams can sell to their fans. When it comes down to it, Brooks is no Landry-calibur trade chip. For those who want to keep him, I don't really see Brooks' future with the Rockets as in doubt.

    It's highly improbable that Morey will be able to move Brooks with no team interested in acquiring Brooks at all. For those who love Brooks, we will probably be able to get Brooks back next season for $3.9 mil per year as Lowry's backup and instant bench-scoring energizer bunny. Once Brooks re-invents himself in his new role as the dead man's Ginobli for the Rockets, we can then package his bargain contract with other assets to trade for a star player.
     
  12. MightyMog

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    Lol you got me, I don't know how I got Terry Porter mixed up with Jason Terry.

    As far as the others, it's because they were best coming off the bench.

    Nothing wrong with that.
     
  13. MightyMog

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    Good point on reading other sites. I seldom notice people saying, ya let's get Brooks.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    He was being sarcastic.

    DD
     
  15. Dave_78

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    This is how I have felt all along. Morey is desperate to add a legit superstar and once (if) he does I don't see how keeping a shoot-first, do-nothing-else PG as your starter is anything but wrong.

    As it stands right now, it is probably safe to say that Brooks is the 4th most efficient scorer in the Rockets starting lineup. If we someone add a star wing player (without giving up Brooks or Martin) then he will likely be the 5th best option on offense at that point. So what's the value of a guy whose only skill is as a scorer when everyone else on the court scores as well or better than he does?

    Look, I like Brooks but what he did last season isn't all that impressive. Plenty of guys have put up almost 20 points on lottery (and playoff) teams and it was understood they weren't starting quality PG on a contender.

    Check Aaron's stats from last year:

    MPG: 32.7
    PPG: 18.1
    FG: 48%
    FT: 85%
    3 PT: 43%
    APG: 4.0

    SPG: 1.2
    TO: 1.8


























    Now how about when I tell you those are Leandro Barbosa's numbers from a few years ago? Still all about the scoring?
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Zero relevence to this discussion.

    Maybe we should post Tony Parker's numbers too?

    Man...the lengths some of you are going to, when most starting championship PGs are guys who can shoot effectively.

    DD
     
  17. Dave_78

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    Sure it does. Nobody I'm aware of has ever accused Leandro Barbosa of being the type of PG who could start on a Championship contender. Why? Because all he does is score the ball. His assists are the by-product of him handling the ball so much. While still valuable, they are basically "bail out" assists. By the way, he was a better scorer than Aaron is and a much better defender so let's be honest here. Brooks could just as easily end up being the 8ppg player Barbosa is now as he could end up being Super Tony Parker or whatever you're calling him these days.

    BTW, I love how you have re-phrased the argument. Most guys here are telling you "a shoot-only PG isn't what you want on a team loaded with offense and looking to contend" and somehow you've twisted that into us saying we think PG who are accurate shooters are a bad thing.

    But I guess you do what you have to do when logic isn't a tool in your tool chest.
     
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  18. larsv8

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    Because he is a SG?
     
  19. Dave_78

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    An undersized SG? Who does that sound like?
     
  20. yaomingyaoming

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    Brooks is expendable, IMO. He's not going to be an All-Star. Ever.

    He's good for what he does. Slash to the basket, make the open 3s. But he's not a Star or ever will be. He's not a PG but an undersized SG playing PG. Not hard to find.

    Morey is going to trade Brooks this season. Guaranteed.
     

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