I'd lean yes because it makes the 2024 pick even better potentially. Mikal Bridges would fit in well here.
You could keep the pick this year and trade it during the draft for future picks (2-3 1st rounders) with the possibility of combining those and the rest of the Nets picks in a year or so when you are ready to truly compete. Then you would have 4-5 picks to trade with FVV for whatever player that you think fits best/most available.
I just can’t help but conclude that if Bridges was so good why do the Nets stink? It’s not like he isn’t surrounded by competent players and his coach’s last name isn’t Silas. Giving up the Nets picks for Bridges just seems like a bad idea. Yes we might miss on the Brooklyn picks but it’s worth the gamble then settle for being just okay with no way to really improve the team via the draft or have assets to trade. This team is not a Bridges away from being a contender. They would be better yes but not good enough.
Lol Bridges is a 21 ppg scorer with defensive traits....he is not elite offensively to warrant anything. He is not even a legit All Star but he is really close to being an All Star Reserve. In this league he is probably only a Top 40 kind of guy. You cannot win big with only a Top 40 guy. Fred VV is a Top 48 guy IMHO. Imagine a team with only Fred Van Vleet, Dillon Brooks and 1 or 2 other guys......no Sengün. Good wings are probably bigger hits on the market.
Now imagine that team in the stacked Western Conference. Next year the Suns, Warriors, and Grizzlies are all likely to be way better than they are this year too. As fun as winning some games this year has been after 2 seasons it’ll get old fast with if you are only fighting for a play in spot year after year. Now that we aren’t tanking the Brooklyn picks might be our only real chance at adding star potential talent either by lucking out in the draft or trading for a star. It’s a gamble still but it’s the right gamble to make.
The Knicks had the Anunoby deal...... I view Bridges only a tiny bit better because he shoots more.....but OG plays better Defense. Those guys are specialists IMHO who fit on most teams but they are overpriced for a reason. Cam Johnson is probably the homeless version but still is going to make 18-25 million/year. The asking price should be similar though.
He's also been the minutes leader on some pretty good Suns teams. He isn't KD but he is a pretty good player. He's a massive upgrade over Jalen on both ends of the court. This team becomes more dangerous depending on the development of Sengun, Tari, Jabari, Cam, and Amen. I don't think we should hold off on acquiring a talented player on a reasonable contract just because it won't give us a title this year or next year.
We shouldn’t hold off on acquiring good players yes and Bridges absolutely is good. Don’t get me wrong there. Big upgrade. Not questioning that. I’m just way too queasy about giving up our only assets that could potentially hit on top level talent… whether it be draft or via trade. If it’s giving up Jalen Green and maybe setting conditions on future firsts… sure maybe (still don’t think we have enough picks to be dealing much of anything) but I could come around to it. But the question is about the Brooklyn picks. In particular the one this year… and if we are dealing BKN their pick back this year they aren’t doing the deal to essentially tank if we they are getting a multiple year runway to rebuild which means there’s just no way they only demand this years pick. I like Bridges but just not at that cost.
Green + Tate + 24 BKN Pick + Filler for Mikal Bridges Nets get their pick back so they could do funny things the rest of the season Nets get a replacement for Mikal and still some decent potentials. A change of scene for Green might do wonders Tate has some value for them to flip this or next year HOU gets a boost in the 25 swap and 26 pick from BKN, in both years the draft is heavy at the top Cream on top is the recoup of the Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul trade: drop in value of our own 26 pick and the 25 swap with OKC We have all our own picks from 2027 forward The more I think about this trade, the more I like the idea.
there's no way Brooklyn accepts just one pick. They are asking for all of it because if they trade Mikal for Green that's means they will be completely tanking for multiple years.
They probably don't accept 2024 + Green, but that's all I'm willing to offer. Those picks are just going to be too valuable in '25 and '26 with the way things are headed in Brooklyn. If I'm Stone, they'd have to offer a lot more than just Bridges to get more than one pick back--including at least one good young player (Sharpe or Thomas). Or find a third team to take Bridges and give us a young guy who is better now & in the future than Jalen. That probably makes it unlikely a deal gets done. If so, suits me just fine. Maybe we luck out for once and get Cooper Flagg.
I feel like the Nets are patiently waiting for a pretender or near contender to empty the bank for Mikal. Kinda like how Atlanta gave up so many picks for Murray
Probably so, but there's a clock on it--and if that happens, it still probably helps us, providing they get a bunch of picks and not a young guy who immediately blossoms into a star player or such.
Conversely if that is what they want to do then why would we give those picks up especially if it means we are giving up a few top 10 picks
As long as they are sellers, I’m happy. It’s all about the ego and “face” of the personnel running the franchise at this point imo
I think the 24 pick is going to be the best of the bunch, they will be a better team beyond this offseason. They can create ~$70m in cap space and get rid of Simmons while having a pile of other teams #1 draft picks to use in trades ..... Anything can happen but they shouldn't be as bad next season as they are right now ....
IDK, I think they are in an awful spot. Was listening to Vecenie's podcast the other day and they were all basically saying the same thing, no team is in a less-enviable position. Simmons' contract doesn't end until after next season. Yes, he is an expiring deal next season, but what can they really do with that in trades since they don't have much draft stock and no stars are clamoring to play for a bottom 10 team likely outside the playoff picture? They have a bunch of roleplayers they can trade away, but most if not all of them are not worth first-round picks. Bridges is about it, probably. Maybe Sharpe/Thomas, but that's future young core they need to protect. And trading guys away doesn't help their assets because they don't own their own picks. Their near-future first-round draft picks are: 2025: Phoenix (garbage pick) 2026: None 2027: Phoenix and Philadelphia (both probably bad picks) Remember too they cannot be without a pick in consecutive years, so the number of near-future picks they can trade is extremely limited. It's harder to say about 2026, I guess--could go either way by then--but I definitely think we should be highly protective of the 2025 one. I wouldn't give it up without, at a minimum, a young all-star coming back in the deal. (Or a guy we think will be one in short order.)
