Mobes may be a poor complement but that is maybe SF's fault. I do not want to bring him the discussion unless you are able to get what Mobes gives us back. The things Mobes bring to the table cannot be sacrificed to correct a problem with SF. The best compromise is the bring in a secondary pg. That person is not going to be a saviour but just one mitigant to the existing risk we have at pg.
ok, i hate to burst any bubbles, but it is obvious that some really don't watch east coast basketball... childs is the worst pg the knicks have had in a long time. we just have no one else to work with and childs has a fat contract. snow is not that good a passer. in half coart sets, the ball is mostly in ai's hands. kidd really is good. but he is also in a more run and gun offense, in half court sets he sucks. thats why the nets will never win a championship. and that is really all that is worth a damn in this division. face it, francis, whatever you feel about him, is the best option out there. also, on a side note, yao's problems have nothing to do with the gaurds.
7 assists didnt show that Francis can really assist!!!He just pass the ball when he had no way to shoot!!
I disagree with every sentence in that paragraph. 1) It's not that he MAY be a bad compliment....It's evident, Mobley is NOT a good compliment to Steve Francis. Compliments don't do the exact same things. Steve Francis is everything Cuttino Mobley wants to be, will never be, and will try to be on the court. 2) You don't want to give Mobley up unless we bring the same back? Are you kidding me? The whole point of trading Mobley is to bring back something different. Anyone can come in and average better assists, better rebounds, comparable steals, comparable blocks, and comparable FG%'s than Mobley. Mobley brings points and defense. I agree that we should bring back defense in a trade. However, Francis and Yao can MORE than pickup the scoring slack (and thats the ENTIRE POINT) that Mobley would lave behind. Also, MoT would get a lot of those shots. These 3 players shoot a very high %, and that's why I want them taking the shots. In exchange for Mobley I want similar defense, better passing, better rebounding, better basketball IQ, and better FG% (CAREER). There are tons of players who fit that criteria. 3) There is no "problem" to correct with Steve Francis. Steve Francis is a pillar, a francise player. All franchise players have a few weaknesses, and the rest of the team should be assembled such that those weaknesses are covered. Steve Francis is a hybrid Guard who can't pass to the post - so bring in smart guys who are all great at passing to the post and can alternate backcourt positions with Steve Francis. 4) Bringing in a second PG would definitely help this team, but would still leave our teams with problematic, unless Mobley's role and minutes were reduced by this EFFECTIVE PG. Mark Jackson or Rod Strickland would be fine, and it would allow us to give Francis more time at the 2, and Mobley a little more time on the bench.
The Rockets can win with Steve. The Pistons win with Chauncey Billups at the helm. They have two backcourt scorers (Billups and Rip), a star big man (Big Ben), and complementary players. Billups is more of a scorer than a passer, but still gets a decent number of assists. Francis is similar. Don't worry. The system can and will work.
Personally, I love both Steve and Yao and think they should stay, but not much of a fan of Mobley. Can we trade Mobley and get a kinda point forward type player?
The difference is, Pistons have different composition of front court. Ben Wallace just needs to clear up the board, mostly, not worrying about scoring.
Steve is a good point guard. He can score, rebound and assist. He just needs to stop dribbling through 2+ defenders, which is killing us. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to adjust himself as we saw.
I think this might be the EGO thing. I mean why haven't they brought in a PG already? Maybe if they did, it show that the team Management dont have confident in Stevie and that could create problems. Why did you people think when Stevie didn't want JW when they won the lottery? It's almost like saying Yao isn't a good centre so let go and get another centre to back him up. I don't know but this doesn't sound right and I dont know why they haven;'t gotten a PG.
Does anyone know much about Wilkes. I know he played at Rice, so he's probably got some "smarts". Does he pass well? Could he be a TJ Ford type of player minus the hops? It just beyond my comprehension how someone as athletic as Steve is, can't even lead a 2 on 1 fast break. But alas, I'll leave that one alone since it's been beaten to death on this board (and rightfully so!!!!) I'd like to see them try Wilkes at the PG move Steve to the SG and have Mobley come off the bench. We would still have 3 good scoring options with Steve, JJ and Yao. Cato would still serve as our enforcer and I'm hoping that Wilkes would be that "water bug" type of point gaurd that always gives us trouble. Any thoughts?
Nah, it should be an experienced player who could take over the starting spot in case of emergencies. Why does everyone assume that if we bring in a PG, that means something's wrong with Steve? Steve's doing great. We need to being in a PG to see less of Mobley, and more of Steve with a different backcourt mate.
Sane, if that were the case then you would just move Steve back over to the point and bring in Mobley or Piatkoski as the 2-gaurd. Of course, this would all depend on what type of player Wilkes is. That's why I asked to start with. Sometimes I think we've all gotten spoiled by Steve's acrobatic moves. It's true that there aren't many in the league with his athleticism, especially considering his size. But watching Dallas last night, I couldn't help admire the way Nash runs their offense. He always looks to create for others first. He zipped back and forth between defenders and always found the open man. He had our defense backing up on their heels. He played smart! That's all I ask for in a PG. Use your head. See the floor. Distribute. Unfortunately, Steve never makes the game seem that easy. He's always looking to make the next highlight reel. I would like to see a down to earth, Avery Johnson type of point gaurd. I'm not at all advicating getting rid of Steve, I'd just like to see someone else distributing the ball.
The guy we should be looking at is Derek Anderson. Right age, right size, workable contract. He is a great passer. He's smart. He's a good shooter. Everything Mobely isn't. We can do a trade exception thing, I'd think, if we help them unload some trash like Patterson. Anderson would be a great fit with Steve and Yao and would really help the ball move. Presently, Anderson is injured and does not have a place in Portland's rotation. Alternatively, we might look also at Alvin Williams. Alvin is not recovering very well from his surgery, it seems. Guess you have to check that. Milt Palacio is the pg in Toronto. If Alvin's able to play well again though, he'd be a decent replacement for Mooch for a solid third guard. Toronto is desperate for scoring and needs some young size, so we might could swing something.
