1. We all want to improve the team but sometimes a trade is not the only option. Young players are there to be developed and veterans are there to lead.That is why the majority trust Morey to sort out the players. Fans do want to trade any players at any given time. How can you build a core nucleus if you are doubting the strengths of each player. That goes beyond my understanding. We have a couple of rookies and new players. And people are already starting to call for their head. After half a season or preferably an entire season one can evaluate how's it going to be. 2. Cheering for him does not include mentioning him in 50 percent of your posts, mostly in a negative tone. 3. That is right. Still talking about serious trades when player are injured does not show either integrity or support.
As a born and bred Texan. I love the city of Houston and the Rockets like it's my family. Tracy is like that gold digging girlfriend that always wants to be taken care of, but never puts in effort towards the relationship. Who wants a girl like that? No matter what any outsiders say. Enough is enough. We want him gone.
i agree with you on this DD. If he plays bad, and his injuries did not recover properly, we will struggle to trade him. No team will want to trade for an injured Tmac. In other words, we will have to let him walk and get nothing in return. Although good in terms of his contract coming of the books, but that does not leave us with enough cap to sign anyone on par with a healthy tmac. so we will be ****ed next year. I think with him playing well is that if we can't trade him. I mean I highly doubt any team will want to give up decent talent for a health tmac that only played healthy for 2 month. The contenders are not gonna risk it. we are not interested in the salary dumping teams cause we don't want bad contracts in return. And for the second half of the season after the trade dead line, and he plays well, then he gonna ask for big money making it almost impossible for us to sign him again. Either way, for some reason I just don't seem to see how we could trade tmac this year. Which in the long run would hurt this team. off course that is assuming he don't demand a trade like he did in orlando, but that was when he was healthy. P.S I am one of those people that don't feel he will return healthy enough to help this team significantly. no reasoning, just can't see it. I don't feel he is dedicated enough to return from a surgery like this. Similar to those who believe he can return. There is no proof what so ever. Just have to wait and see. only my opinion...
If it bugs you so much just don't read them, I get that you want people to feel the warm fuzzies and conform to your thoughts of fandom, I think we all have our own way of being a fan. You do yours, I respect it, I will do mine.......at the end of the day, we are all Rocket fans. Sure, I criticize him, too much I am sure....try going to a bar in Philly and talking to the fans......lol. Oh come on, the players know when they sign the contract they will be treated like assets, it is a business. I actually agree with Tracy doing the smart thing and getting his knee done while being under contract, I just don't agree with the way he treated the organization in announcing it. So, I have no qualms about trading away injured assets, it is part of the business, and that is just how I look at things, it is my perspective. Doesn't invalidate yours or anyone elses, it just creates a gulf because we are looking at the same situation in a much different manner. DD
Yes, I have seen the many games in which he was the only one keeping us in the game! So what's your point?
I speak for the majority of us that LOVE the Houston Rockets and care enough to want what's best for the organization.
Say what you want but even Kobe had someone to takeover even if they weren't able to carry the team totally. I'm would argue that Odom has been really effective for the Lakers during playoffs moreso than Yao when T-Mac also played. Is Odom a better player than Yao? NO, but during the playoff games when T-Mac also played, Odom did more to relieve Kobe than Yao did to relieve T-Mac on the offensive end. Maybe you blame their positions for that but again their supporting casts during those years were not on the same level. Kobe has always had a better supporting cast than either Yao or T-Mac has had even this year. I expect that trend to change as Morey continues to put his stamp on this team. I said all of that to get to the point that Kobe could take off plays or even quarters and comeback in the fourth to finish the game strong. Please tell me when T-Mac has had the luxury to take off quarters (and in games that we were blow out) so he could be fresh in the fourth? I know that he never had that option in either the Mavs or Jazz series. Please correct me if I am wrong folks. You can dislike him all that you want but your argument can be disputed just as easily as you typed it. And for the record, Yao has fizzled in the fourth before too, he's human!!!
I was getting too annoyed with all the same postings. Never mind. This org is in good hands whatever it does. No matter what you wish for. MOVE ON.
I think alot of people agree his situation is holding back the franchise, but the same can be said for Yao, yet we don't see nearly as many snide remarks from you on that issue. I like how you label people the "Tmac MIB squad". Thats really cute and clever and certainly doesn't create a deeper wedge between fans You should probably re label it the people who don't agree with my assessment posse. Or maybe we should counter by calling you the "dumb trade proposal crew" I wan't the Rockets to be an elite team. Holding onto McGrady at the moment is the best option, when the alternatives are the likes of Steven Jackson and Corey Maggette, if even that.
Some might say you hold this BBS back with all your t-mac bashing. Ok, we get it, he is a bum and a cancer on every front according to you. He's the most selfish, undriven, lazy, lying, disruptive person ever to wear a Rockets uniform according to your posts. Just because people disagree with that overblown negative sentiment doesn't make them T-mac lovers. Many people just have a wait and see approach...it's not even being a fan of his or anything like that, it's being a ROCKETS fan first, and hoping the guy gets better and contributes to the ROCEKTS SUCCESS. You won't even entertain that possibility. You want him out. You bash the guy 30 different ways. ok, but you know what, don't call people who disagree with you the "MIB" squad. Most of them are just rationale people.
he just survived the offseason training under Tim grover in chicago. How has he not proven anything yet...
Just like any Fan who had to see him launch long jumpers in the 4th when the game is tight. Just like every fan knows Kobe > Tmac because Kobe has a winners mentality, plus a much better jumper see aka career FG% or even TS%.
Lol...so training under Tim Grover=perfromance on court? I am just saying that I will only be convinced when he can pull together 10-20 games of good/great performance. To say that he had training with tim grover is not good enough for me. I am not saying he will not return. It is just that to me tmac lacks the dedication to come back. That surgery was a major surgery, not everyone can come back from it. I am expecting a lot from tmac this year. I guess cause we don't have anyone else on the team that we can go to down the stretch, so in his word, its on him this season. I don't feel that surviving training is the same, or remotely close to in game situations. hey, i made it clear, it is just IMO.
You call it bashing, I call it real speak......if you can't handle criticism of a player, then what the hades are you doing hanging around an internet message board dedicated to a sports team? And, why is it always the guy you disagree with that is ruining the BBS....and not the people arguing with him/her.....It does take two to tango Lou. Please do not exaggerate what I am saying, just by this statement alone proves that you are just here to argue with me about it...big surprise. Agreed, I was speaking to those that are clearly riding his jock, if you are not one than it was not directed at you. So, you are upset because uhhhhhhhh.....I don't want to take an approach YOU LIKE.....but would rather stick with the one I like...I mean REALLY? If you want to take that approach, good on ya mate, but I don't......doesn't mean anything other than we disagree...big whup ! Well, since you took offense, it must mean that you felt it was directed at you........the MIB tag was a bit of a laugh, I guess I should have just stuck with Apologists, to stop confusing people. At the end of the day Lou...we don't agree on how to handle Tmac.....not sure why it bugs you so much....... I don't care that you want to wait and see......why do you care that I want him traded? I mean honestly....that is laugh out loud funny. DD
Feel the same way bro, I love this thread people still believe in tmac. He botched the trade with the Nets. Team over any player. We need to trade Tmac for atleast some good role players. That will help us with rick adelman's motion offense. So for the sake of his trade value, we need him healthy for him to produce.
We are in agreement. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to knote32 again. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DaDakota again.
