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Brief TMac Update:Still Limping

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J-Tang, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Surfguy

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    I'm sure this has already been touched on...but how the hell is Tmac going to keep up with our new offense? I just don't see it. Tmac is going to be ball hog iso-style while other players stand around. I seriously wonder how Tmac is going to get up-and-down the court with these younger guys. With Tmac, we're going to fall into more of a half-court slow-it-down style which will doom the ball this team is playing now. If this team keeps this up, then it may be better to get rid of Tmac versus the disruption he could create when he comes back. I dunno how this is going to work with Tmac. Will Tmac actually make this offense better given the direction the offense has headed now? I guess that is the main question I'm sure a lot of us have.
     
  2. Jeff Who

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    You are right. From medical staindpoint his knee may be ok (I mean healthly) and it sure looks that way during those shorts videos.

    But he may be struggling with the mental part of the recovery.
     
  3. rockets2

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    You crazy :rolleyes: . it takes atleast 10 months to heal, he is allready far ahead of scheduel. he'll be fine
     
  4. A_3PO

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    At no point this season do I expect McGrady to fully "trust" his knee and go "all out". This is why he's completely off my radar other than as a sideshow. It's very doubtful he makes any meaningful contribution to the team. It's all about him and his future NEXT season, not the team. Not that it would happen at this point because the other players have clearly moved on, but I don't want his negative energy on the floor slowing down other players. He's a 100% pure square peg on this squad. There is no place for him. From my standpoint, he's already an ex Rocket.

    The only McGrady issue I'm concerned about is whether he gets traded near the deadline (or not) and what the Rockets get for him.
     
  5. the_hustler

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    right. but I dunno who is restricting him from going all out.. the team or his mind?

    I think Feigan or JCF has do a story on T-Mac and clarify everything..
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I find the whole TMac thing strange, you would think there would be TONS of coverage of him and his rehab.

    The fact that they are low keying it, when the organization knows some fans are bitter (yes me), makes me think they are really not counting on him at all.

    Because if they thought he would come back, they would start a PR push showing how hard he is working etc.....and articles would be written about it in the Chronicle....

    Maybe they are just holding off until they are sure he is coming back....just strange..

    DD
     
  7. Artesticles

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    Unless you think guys like Chase Budinger are better than him, McGrady is going to get a good 25 minutes a game. Square peg? I'll tell you what a square peg is, trying to see Trevor Ariza create his own shot. T-Mac will perfectly fit the playmaking role on this team and will benefit Ariza, Battier, Budinger significantly.

    Get over last year people. He was hurt and had no business playing. This year will be quite different.
     
  8. the_hustler

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    I don't see a point counting a guy who has undergone microfracture.. and yes.. T-Mac is no John Stockton.. I think the Rockets are doing the right thing if what you are saying is true..

    and also.. I don't think a healthy T-Mac is going to put us over the top anyway.. its gonna be that same old story of round 1 and out even if he comes back.. unless we get a favorable playoff opponent .. which is again unlikely because i dont expect the rockets to get a top 4 seed in the WC..

    lets just roll the dice and see what happens.. the team is real fun to watch and proves doubts wrong time and again.. If T-Mac comes in and fits in without disrupting other players.. it will be even better to watch and enjoy..

    :)
     
  9. the_hustler

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    o yes.. did you see Ariza trying to create a shot off the dribble with the Jazz.. ? he dribbled the ball off his foot if i am right.. and it was funny..

    Ariza is benefiting from Rick's offensive schemes.. Ariza is just a system player and he is not gonna carry us in the 4th quarter.. Brooks will do that.. and T-mac can do that..

    and btw.. I like Yao Ming a lot.. but why are a lot of posters here considering T-Mac THE "square peg" in the offense? T-Mac can atleast try and fit in.. but Yao Ming will not be able to do that.. no matter how hard he tries.. he is slow and he is built for the half court style..

    so .. is it time to trade Yao?
     
  10. caneks

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    I have hard time to understand why there is still TOF here. T-Mac has not helped this team much since he came to Houston. He has not even performed in any single season here better than his career average in term of FG%.
    Create his own shot? like to take 20+ shots with 40% FG? This team doesn't need that. In fact, this team could do much better without it, they at least got to the second round.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    This is a year in which we are not legitimate contenders......so why would you not play Budinger as much as possible?

    Playing a 30 something coming off microfracture who has an expiring contract and a propensity to dominate the ball in a growth year is not prudent, IMO.

    DD
     
  12. gotsis

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    in reality rockets are kind of tied up with yao, first no one will trade for a guy thats injured for the whole year, second: he has a player option, no way he lets go of that amount of money. 3: he brings alot of money to the organization. 4: he could come back strong and who knows we might even be a contender next season ( but really thats far away, lets enjoy this season, that until now has been a pleasent suprise)
     
  13. gotsis

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    that could be said the other way round....why are there people that just cant admit T-mac actually was our best player until last season and the reason that we got out of the first round had nothing to do to with him playing or not?
     
  14. the_hustler

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    its the field goal percentage that matters.. WOW

    well .. who carried the team.. or lets just say .. helped the Rockets offense.. when Yao went out injured?

    o yes .. it was Raferr.?.. or Battier? and o .. was it Chuck Hayes?

    T-Mac didnt help us get out of the first round.. I definitely agree.. he sucked at that.. but dont come and tell us that he didnt contribute "much" .. he definitely contributed and I respect him for that.. thats all.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    Get over what? I'm not even thinking about last year (when the Rockets advanced beyond the 1st round without him). Look at the year before, when it took McGrady leaving for a few weeks before the offense found itself. He needs to dominate the ball to be effective, which is exactly the opposite of what the Rockets are doing now with the motion offense. He also doesn't like running the floor, which is exactly what the Rockets do now more than ever before.

    If he's willing to come back and blend in by moving without the ball (instead of isoing on the wing and holding the ball 5 seconds), hustle and run the floor on fast breaks (which he rarely did when healthy) and bust his rump on defense, I would welcome him back. That isn't likely. I'd rather this be AB's team for the entire season. I'd like to see what Scola can do over 82 games without Yao (or McGrady). I'd like Budinger to get as much floor time as possible to develop his game.

    Ariza? He's figuring out his limitations, which involves trying to do more than he is capable of and making mistakes. But I'm satisfied so far. This season is for the development of long-term Rockets players. Any floor time given to McGrady is a courtesy because he's a goner. Ariza should figure out in short order he can't shoot off the dribble at this level.

    gotsis, who was the Rockets best player before McGrady got injured? McGrady! I have no problem saying that, but it's time to move on. T-Mac is dead. He's just McGrady now.

    To the McGrady "haters": Please don't pile on the guy and derail the thread. Please try to be factual without getting nasty.
     
  16. Jeff Who

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    I am just tired of all those updates, videos, comments, etc. As a TMac fan I am just waiting for the 23rd november and that's all.

    Will he be back, nobody knows it.
     
  17. the_hustler

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    I agree with your points..

    I whole heartedly want Yao to play with the Rockets as long as he is healthy .. I like what he brings and I think he is a key piece if we are to contend in the future...

    but my point is why is everybody complaining about T-Mac and him not running the offense when Yao also does the same thing (because of Yao's deficiencies)

    and first of all.. we have to see whether T-Mac comes back and dominates the ball with this level of talent on the team..

    and another point I would love to raise time and again is that T-Mac dominated the ball in 2007-2008 ( and before) because of the lack of offensive weapons in the team.. lets see the line up..

    1) Rafer
    2) Battier
    3) Scola (rookie)
    4) Deke
    5) Mandry (rookie)
    6) AB (rookie)
    7) Luther Head :)

    so what do you expect T-Mac to do..?
     
  18. Joe Joe

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    The Rockets have a culture of trying to win. I do think playing Budinger a lot fits into this culture, but so does getting TMac back in action. It appears he may be with the Rockets after this season unless they can trade him for a big piece at trading deadline.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Make his teamates better?

    DD
     
  20. gotsis

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    the best thing to do is see how far we can get with this new fast motion offense, then asses if yao can fit in or find ways to make it work.....[


    in mcgradys case, if hes healthy I think he will fit in just fine, it will open things up for ariza and buldinger to shoot and also will help scolas game as mcgrady knows how to get post players passes in good positions.....The only thing im worried is that i really want to see brooks being the ball handler even with t-mac on the floor, because brooks is having a incredible season until now, hes scoring and creating. ( i know its been 4 games , but brooks really impressed me with his new found playmaking ability)
     

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