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Brett's block on Wilson

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by FLASH21, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. msn

    msn Member

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    You mean he turns around backwards and throws his back at a guy who's not looking at him, from the side, at an obviously dangerous angle for his knees? Just checking.

    And I understand he probably didn't think, "hey let me end this guy's season and endanger his career." But a dirty block is a dirty block. There's a rule against for a reason.

    And, if he didn't know what he was doing and dangerous it would be, after all these years, he's a flipping moron.
     
  2. rezdawg

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    http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=3251

    These are comments made my Favre's teammates regarding the block:

    “I liked it,” tight end Visanthe Shiancoe said. “Hey, it’s man eat man out here. You better keep your eyes on a swivel. He saw Brett out there and said, ‘Ah, Brett ain’t going to do anything.’”

    Harvin said he appreciated the help. “Actually he kind of scared me because I kind of forgot he was out there,” Harvin said. “After I turned the corner I saw him flash across my face. It was good to see him still get down a little. I appreciated the block.”

    Said running back Adrian Peterson: “He’s just playing ball. I’m sure he wouldn’t do anything to intentionally hurt the guy. He’s just out there playing ball.”
     
  3. msn

    msn Member

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    Yeah, there's no bias there. What did Wilson's teammates have to say?

    How about the majority of analysts and former QBs who commented on it?

    Sure, he didn't *mean* to hurt him. He just dove at a man's knees.

    He broke a rule. He gets no slack from me. And yes, if it was Schaub, I'd be at him with just as much vitriol.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    I was thinking about the Jarred Allen (sp?) hit the other day, and I wonder if this might be a good deterrent:

    For a blatant, dirty, illegal hit:
    * mandatory minimum one-game suspension depending on the hit itself
    * additional suspension, minus pay, for every game your victim misses not to exceed the number of games left in the season
    * if your victim misses beyond the current season, you surrender in the form of a fine:
     &nbsp:- half your pay for the first full season
     &nbsp:- 25% of your pay for the second full season (unless the victim is 36 years old at the beginning of the season)

    That's probably a *horrible* idea. But it crossed my mind.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I have no idea. That is why I asked the OP the question as to what he meant when he said Favre had not been put in that position before.
     
  5. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    well, if you don't want anyone else to respond, e-mail him directly. ;)
     
  6. Big Shot Rob

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    I hope Favre is seriously injured this season on a blind-side sack, and is forced to retire.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Where did you get that idea? You asked me a question and I answered it.
     
  8. rezdawg

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    Msn, I've been unsuccessful in finding quotes by texans players other than Wilson. If it was that dirty, then you'd figure a few players from the opposing team would mention it...I tried finding something, but couldn't.

    Marshall Faulk said that Favre is a qb and doesn't know how to block, and the only blocks he had thrown were behind the line of scrimmage, where that same block would have been legal.

    I'm not sure how much sports you have played in your life, but many times, things happen so quickly that there isn't much time to react properly, specially when it's a new situation for someone. Lining up at WR in a wildcat formation is a first for Favre and childress took the blame for putting Brett in that position. In this instance, Favre didn't want to take on the block, out of fear of getting hurt, so he reacted in a way to protect himself first. It's not a situation of, "let's go after the knees", but more a situation of, "oh crap, I need to get out of the way".
     
  9. rezdawg

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    By the way, put quotes from Vikings players because you mentioned his peers disapproved of it, and I believe his teammates would fit under the "peer" category.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    cause you said you were asking him a question and i believed i answered it for you. :)
     
  11. msn

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    OK.

    There were several who said things like this. There were just as many, if not more, who said he had no excuse.

    I'm pretty sure I wouldn't dive at someone's knees.

    Good.

    Protect himself by diving INTO the man's knees? Come on, man. Seriously.

    They weren't even running hard. He could have sissy-pushed Wilson like the 8-year old girls used to do on the playground and gotten him enough out of the way. But no, throwing his back and throwing shoulder in the guy's knees was "safer"? Come on, man.

    Oh, I understood that. There's an obvious bias, though.

    Look, I see where you're coming from: your point is Favre wanted to fulfill his assignment, didn't know how without getting hurt, tried to take him out of the play without getting hit hard, and had no intention of hurting Wilson. Am I right? I understand.

    My point is, after nearly two decades in the league, if he doesn't know better than to throw his body at a man's knees from the side he's a royal freaking class a moron. And, whether he "meant" to be dirty or not, it's a dirty play.

    If he didn't know before, hopefully now he does. It's a dirty play.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Fair enough, I can agree with that. I think it was dirty without intent...just a stupid, girlie play on his part.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You answered my question by asking me a question?

    Do you know how many times Favre has lined up at WR throughout his career?
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    no, but i watched nearly all his games from 97 to 02 or so and never did. i thought it was pretty obvious what he was talking about.
     
  15. bronxfan

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    so no fine, or did I miss it?
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    out today, $10K fine

     
  17. monkeyboy32

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    actually i dont agree at all, it may not have been a situation of "lets go after the knees" but at the same time it also wasnt exactly "oh crap, I need to get out of the way" either

    if that was the case he coulda just threw a matador style block and kinda slap two arms at wilson's chest as he runs by... but he doesn't, he throws his body at wilson's knees... I think it was more of "I think I still gotta win over this locker room and get respect from these guys that I ditched from training camp"

    and obviously, from the quotes from shiancoe and harvin, it looks like it worked.. what a POS
     
  18. rezdawg

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    Sorry, but unless you are part of the Texans' secondary, this is not an option.

    Look, the guy has never had any harmful intention in all the years he's been playing ball...no reason to think that at 40, he's all of a sudden aiming to injure someone. He was in an awkward situation, with a new team, and he was just giving an all out effort. I dont agree with what he did, but it happened and not one Texan player said anything negative about it other than Wilson himself.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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  20. msn

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    I see that.

    Nope. You said yourself he was trying not to get hurt and it was a sissy, pansy thing to do. That was *anything* but an all-out effort.

    And, whether or not the 40-year-old moron knows it's a dirty play, it's a dirty play. Hopefully, now he knows.

    Good for the Texans.
     

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