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Breakout Stars of 2013-14?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Sydeffect, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. Shaud

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    Tobias Harris and Bradley Beal.

    John Wall will move up the pg list.

    I don't get why people are saying Thomas Robinson, he is playing behind Lamarcus ALdridge right?
     
  2. Pieman2005

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    Tobias Harris.. I was 18-0 in fantasy basketball and then lost the championship game because my opponent had Harris go off -__-
     
  3. MourningWood

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    Anthony Davis' reign of terror begins this season. He's the face of the league's rising crop of bigs - Drummond, Valanciunas, Kanter, Favors - and he'll establish himself as the second most dominant defensive tower in the game... after only Dwight, of course.

    He has many, many All-Star appearances and All-NBA selections ahead of him.
     
  4. jtr

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    Drummond of course. A bigger Dwight Howard but somehow faster and stronger. Detroit looking food.
     
  5. J.R.

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    Projecting the top five breakout players

    Just what is a breakout player anyway? As with many sports-related concepts, it might not be what you think it is.

    To illustrate, consider three players who garnered a lot of votes for last season's NBA Most Improved Player award.

    After signing with the Houston Rockets, Omer Asik stepped out of the shadow he resided under in Chicago as Joakim Noah's backup. His per-game averages leaped at the switch, with his scoring vaulting from 3.1 to 10.1 and rebounds increasing from 5.3 to 11.7. Even Asik's blocks climbed, increasing from 1.0 to 1.1. However, the biggest change in Asik's traditional stat line was that he tacked on nearly 1,500 minutes from his last season with the Bulls.

    It's often a change in role that marks a breakout season, and that's not only a function of court time, but also how a player is used in his teams' scheme. Asik burned more possessions and grabbed a higher rate of defensive rebounds in Houston, but both of those categories are greatly impacted by how a player is deployed. Asik's offensive rebound rate declined and his block rate dropped almost in half. At the bottom line, Asik's offensive rating, which measures how many points he's worth per 100 possessions, was 105.6, almost exactly what it was over two seasons in Chicago.

    Don't misunderstand, Asik got better with his increased opportunity. Just look at his free throw shooting, which improved from 46 percent to 56 percent. But in reality, it wasn't so much that Asik broke out as a Rocket, it was that his performance as a Bull demanded a larger role.

    The same phenomenon explains last season's MIP winner, Indiana's Paul George. George added more 1,000 minutes to his ledger, but his per-possession performance was nearly the same as the season before. The big change came in assist rate, part of the consequence of assuming the role of injured forward Danny Granger. George got more shots with greater offensive responsibility, but his turnovers climbed and his shooting efficiency slipped.

    Overall, the increased volume boosted George's value, and even his dynamic playoff performance was largely a function of his court time climbing to 41 minutes per game. Still, George stepped up a level, and that it happened at age 22 was not surprising: Basketball players exhibit their most growth during their early 20s.

    Role changes and age don't explain everything: NBA experience also matters. Chicago's Jimmy Butler spent the bulk of his rookie season as a Tom Thibodeau redshirt, but last season drew 2,134 minutes. He improved across the board, with a 48-point increase in true shooting percentage, upticks in rebounding, assists, steals and blocks, and a decrease in turnovers. At the bottom line, he added 2.7 points of PER and nearly 100 points of winning percentage. That the improvement came in Butler's second NBA season was typical -- in college the phenomenon is called the "sophomore leap" and it also often manifests at the NBA level.

    So when you're considering the following list of top five breakout candidates for the 2013-14 season, remember the three most common routes a player takes to such a season: (1) He's in his second season; (2) he's playing a larger role with his team; and (3) he's in his early 20s. Of course, sometimes it's a combination of those factors. (Take note, fantasy leaguers.)


    1. Bradley Beal | Washington Wizards
    WARP: plus-4.2 | WIN%: plus-.076

    Beal fits two of our criteria for breakout candidates in that he just turned 20 in June and is entering his second NBA season. The ability to shoot a high percentage with a high volume from 3-point range is an excellent marker for a future big-time scorer. Besides Beal, the only rookies age 20 or under who have qualified for the 3-point title, hit at least 38 percent from deep and played at least 1,500 minutes have been Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight, Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon and Mike Miller. All of those players, as you may have noticed, have evolved into more than shooting specialists.

    2. Andre Drummond | Detroit Pistons
    WARP: plus-3.0 | WIN%: minus-.022

    If there is a preseason favorite for most improved player, it's probably Drummond. He's projected to decline a smidgeon in winning percentage, but that's because his rookie year figure of .665 was so high that some historical regression is almost a given. However, Drummond is slated to start in the middle for Detroit this season, and his rookie season level of 20.7 minutes per game should increase by at least seven or eight minutes, depending on his ability to avoid fouls. If he plays 30 minutes per game, you can pencil Drummond in for 12-13 points, 11-12 rebounds and a block rate that will contend for tops in the league, all while shooting 60 percent from the floor. The Drummond-Brandon Jennings pick-and-roll should be one of the more exhilarating play calls any coach will make in the coming season.

    3. Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
    WARP: plus-3.3 | WIN%: plus-.040

    What constitutes a breakout for a player who is already one of the league's biggest stars? Two things: health and wins. One reason to expect the former is actually the latter. In other words, the Cavaliers have been careful with Irving toward the end of his first two seasons because the team was well out of playoff contention. This season, not only does the law of averages suggest Irving is due for a healthier campaign, but a beefed-up Cleveland roster will make Irving's presence a necessity next spring as the Cavs seek to lock up a playoff seed. The improved talent around Irving should also make him even more efficient, which along with the natural growth curve for a player so young should mean yet another leap in value. For Irving, that means becoming a top-10 player in the NBA.

    4. Kawhi Leonard | San Antonio Spurs
    WARP: plus-2.5 | WIN%: plus-.045

    You have to be careful about reading too much into playoff breakouts. Not only is the sample size small, but numbers are skewed because you see the same lineup advantages and mismatches played out game after game. However, Leonard has now hit 41.4 percent from 3-point range in his 35 career playoff games, and last year averaged 37 minutes per game during the postseason. None of that factors into his projection, which sees Leonard occupying a larger role in the San Antonio rotation with the core around him continuing to grow older. What we saw in the playoffs suggests that Leonard is ready to become what the numbers suggest he can be.

    5. Enes Kanter | Utah Jazz
    WARP: plus-1.9 | WIN%: minus-.057

    You can make an argument for Kanter or teammate Derrick Favors to be listed here as both are expected to move into full-blown starting roles. For Favors, it's a matter of proving he can cut his off-the-bench foul rate without losing any of the aggressiveness that makes him an elite offensive rebounder. Kanter simply needs to do what he's been doing as a reserve. Last season, he averaged 16.9 points and 10.2 rebounds per 36 minutes while shooting 54.4 percent from the field -- all at the age of 20. Look out.

    Breakout candidate honorable mentions: Austin Rivers, Patrick Beverley, Anthony Davis, Evan Fournier and JaVale McGee
     
  6. Voice of Aus

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    Wtf this is such a random like of guys to chuck in, Austin rivers should just be trying to get double figure minutes per game this season the scrub, not in MIP honourable mentions,.

    But please JR feel free when rivers dos win the award next year to remind me of how stupid I am.
     
  7. J.R.

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    I did not say Rivers. That is an ESPN article (or more specifically Bradford Doolittle) but whatever.
     
  8. Voice of Aus

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    That's all you had to say.
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    Austin Rivers..huh? If he can just become a scrub, I suppose that is an improvement over absolute garbage...
     
  11. dobro1229

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    Here's hoping that its Thomas Robinson

    (so he makes LaMarcus Aldridge available for the taking)
     
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Lots of good names in this thread. Impressed with y'all bozos.
     
  13. ItalianRocket

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    Enes Kanter,was putting solid number coming off the bench and now it will be his season and he is also working out with none other than the Mailman Karl Malone.

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    Greg Oden (get it? His knees break out and he is a star)
     
  15. Obito

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    Jimmy Butler will be Chicago's number 2.

    & I'll go with John Wall establishing himself as a top PG.
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    There is a good chance that Robinson starts next to LMA.
     

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