[BREAKING] School Shooting in Conn. at Elementary School

Should we blame the alcohol industry for causing over 3 million deaths per year? What about drunk drivers? If you take away their keys they can just use someone else's car. Should we ban cars? Without a car they could not drive drunk. We tried making alcohol illegal, but that didn't work. People just strapped it to their boots and sold it for more money. Maybe we have to ban cars, because it is just a death machine when you mix in a little alcohol.

Cars don't kill people, guns don't kill people. Drugs, alcohol, poverty and other socio-economic factors kill people.

http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

One-third of all drivers arrested/convicted of driving while drunk or driving under the influence of alcohol are repeat offenders.

 

Another statistic supporting the prescription drug shooter epidemic.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038353_gun_control_psychiatric_drugs_Adam_Lanza.html

 

The media is also one of the socio-economic factors to blame for this. I hate the way these acts of terror are covered. This kid was influenced by drugs and the coverage he received from the media.

 

WTF? You can't differentiate between the two? People don't go out and drink and get drunk to kill people on purpose. Drinking and driving is just bad judgmental or irresponsible on a person's part. Guns should NOT allow to be own by a normal citizens in the very first place.

Sure you can't stop a person who is medically drugged or mentally disordered. But a mentally disordered person with a possesses of a deadly firearms is a different story. What is a terrorists without his bombs or guns?

 

You're obviously heated up. Calm down, finish reading the post and try to understand my comparison better. You can say guns are banned, but you can't ban guns. Narcotics are banned from this country, and yet they are everywhere. The idea of banning something is great, but the execution is terrible. The same thing happened with the bootleggers in the 20's.

 

Narcotics and alcohol are physically addictive. It's a dumbass comparison.

The gun apologists are a lot like the climate change deniers. It's a complete denial of reality.

 

You did not comprehend my post. That is why I suggested the banning of cars. It is an extreme measure that would end all drunk driving related deaths similar to the idea of banning guns. Obviously cars are not as concealable as weapons, drugs and alcohol so it would be much easier to execute. Our environment would be cleaner, and the world would be a safer place. But you can't take away cars without getting the same reaction that you would when you suggest taking away drugs or alcohol. Society is overly dependent on these things today.

Every time someone suggests banning guns to solve firearm-related deaths (close to 70% of which are self-inflicted) they think it can be done so easily. Forget about the gun advocates, no one cares what they think. What happens when their is a crazy man stabbing children on the loose? Okay, the cops can keep their guns. Now, the government has all the power. If you think they care about you now just wait until you are completely defenseless.

I am not a gun advocate and I believe the only way to effectively solve firearm-homicides is to eliminate guns completely. Will their be short-term issues? Yes. In the long-term, America would be better without guns.

 

You suggested the banning of cars and that's also a bad comparison. Cars aren't designed or intended to kill people. The purpose and design of a gun/ammo is to be as effective as possible in killing. That's why guns exist.

This whole protecting yourself from the government thing is so naive.. Like you and your glock are any match for APC's, tanks, and cruise missiles. We're in the 21st century not the 18th.

 

Most of these shooters take prescription drugs. They didn't shoot anyone when they were not on drugs. This behavior is unprecedented. Guns have always been around, but these drugs have not. Two of the top 20 largest companies are in the pharmaceutical industry. Another, sells a different kind of drugs. You can't tell me America doesn't demand drugs as much as they do cars.

Apple Inc
Exxon Mobil Corp.
Google Inc
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
General Electric Co
Microsoft Corporation
Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
International Business Machines Corp.
Chevron Corporation
Johnson & Johnson
AT&T Inc
Procter & Gamble Co.
Pfizer Inc
Wells Fargo & Co.
Coca-Cola Co (The)
JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Oracle Corp.
Philip Morris International Inc
Merck & Co., Inc
Verizon Communications Inc

I was comparing the reaction you get when you suggest taking away cars to the reaction you get when you suggest taking away drugs. It's the same reaction, because we rely on drugs and cars to solve problems that exist due to the effects of industrialization and mental illness. Maybe these drug companies care more about taking your money than they do about treating your illness.

FIFY.

You can't see the problems because you haven't experienced them yet. If you think unemployment is high now then wait until guns are banned. High homicide rates are directly related to unemployment and reflective of a poorly governed society. People have to eat and that's why they steal and justify killing to get away with it. But do you think the government cares if they starve? They look weak when crime is high. That's why they want to keep homicides low. Is it the governments job to feed people who can't find work? Well, many think it's not.

Do you think you can just ban guns and have them poof away? Everyone who has a gun will say I lost it before they turn it in. Then you have a bunch of criminals that think they can break into any house without having to worry about the owner carrying a gun. The founding fathers gave us the right to bare arms to protect ourselves.

 

Why did the police handcuff the brother when they themselves stated he wasn't a suspect?

 

While this probably be in the D&D thread, I just want to ask:

what is the purpose of a car or alcohol vs the purpose of a gun?

 

If Newtown is the safest place in America (or was thought to be before this), then why did this shooter's Mom own three guns especially when her kid has mental problems? Did she have them to protect herself from Adam going off? And, whatever happened to parents locking up their guns in a gun safe?

To me, it's disturbing she felt she needed these guns in the first place...especially a teacher of young children.

 

I agree with you. We shouldn't need guns. We did, but now we don't. The problem is we do. Otherwise, we live in a place where people think they can break into your home and steal (hungry people got to eat) without having to worry about it costing them their life.

I'm guessing Americans needed guns in that time period after they broke free from the British Parliament. If we could rewrite the Constitution today, and somehow did not have guns, the idea of outlawing guns is great. Unfortunately, we do have guns. And you can't ban something so easily concealable. The amount of registered guns that will and already have been claimed as lost or stolen will remain unaccounted for and continue to float around. It is not a small number.

Single mothers, always worrying. A cat will always be a cat even when there is no danger present.

 

Then you call the authorities in blue, you know the ones who are trained and equipped with guns and reinforcement????

 

I haven't been caught up with this story but is that accurate??? His mother owns guns in one of the safest/whitest place in America?? Is it really hers?? Or did this scumbag used his mother's credit cards to have them shipped to her house without her knowing it??? These kids have a way of manipulating their parents you know..

 

NUntru

This IS the main topic. To think you can discuss yet another senseless gun massacre in our country without having to acknowledge the "offensive " subject of our gun culture is naive, willfully blind and offensively dumb by itself

If you don't want to discuss it then don't read the thread or buy a newspaper or turn on your tv/internet

 

They said the guns were legally registered to the mother.

 

One again these shooting massacre always happens in these nice little town that nobody expects to ever occur...
We better see some changes in public schooling and then you can work on your gun control policy...

 

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing that you've ever posted in this forum.

Seriously.

I am dumbfounded at the level of nonsensical drivel contained in this post. I believe that I am now dumber for having read it.

 

Dude you don't get it, we just need to give everyone with mental health issues a routine psych exam about once a week. Simple. Don't be so unreasonable Izak. And then surely every one of those interviewed who is planning on killing someone will freely admit it during this routine interview, because that's how psych interviews work now.