Breaking News - Three Gunman in Paris kill 12 and are on the loose.

So like I said, if a group of people says they are going to start killing anyone who talks bad about their leader of choice, should we ban that?

You are doing EXACTLY what terrorists want. No, you don't support killing people, but by turning their murderous actions into a conversation about limiting speech you are aiding them in their quest. They were the tip of the spear but you are the blunt stick behind it.

There are radio stations in this town that play music or have talk show hosts that say things that make me angry. You know what I do? Choose not to listen. THAT is what you do. I don't kill them.

Taste is in the eye of the reader, but tastefulness isn't the goal of satire. Also, regardless of any attempt at appeasement the president may make with his speeches, neither he nor his staff is actually putting forth any attempt to limit the ability of cartoonists to do that.

 

I think it should not be okay, never said they should be illegal.

Damn man, maybe they weren't targeted. I still feel like they might have been. She wears a scarf. All I know is you can't even sit in your own home and be safe these days.

 

Your inability to differentiate between mindless cartoons and satire is sad.
No, these artists don't draw pictures of Mohammed because its funny or to elicit laughter. That is not the primary purpose, if you think that is the primary purpose then you are wrong.

 

I would imagine so. Why would they have carried an RPG otherwise? CrashTheBoards holds a minority opinion and is really adding nothing to the discussion. He probably holds a more benign view but has become defensive. These extremists thought that they were becoming martyrs for their cause but will inevitably create more criticism towards extremists and intolerance towards all Muslims. Scoreboard for free speech:

 

I blame the cartoonists.

 

I will not debate this any further until it is in the D&D. As long as it's in the hangout people are more interested in the topic than our debates.

 

Yes. Just change where the topic is located and people will magically begin to empathize with your irrational rhetoric.
Yeah where was the faux outrage when The Interview came out?

 

Why is it that when Sony pulled "The Interview" from theatres he told Sony they should of spoken with him first, which to me seems like he didn't approve of Sony pulling it, but these cartoons aren't ok?

 

The president's statements when he is trying to calm the flames by appeasing them with rhetoric are irrelevant.

Politicians say what is politically advantageous for them to say.

 

And this means what exactly?

Some people believe premarital sex is not OK.

Others think eating animals is not OK.

You need to realize there are many different opinions

 

Since Mr. Clutch is rational and didn't put words in my mouth, I think making it illegal is too far and conflicts with the First Amendment. You should know better than to walk around the mall and say white power every 5 seconds. It isn't illegal, but it isn't okay.

Maybe because they are actually funny.

 

Right so the appropriate action is to not be friends with the idiot who says that. Or, in the case of a newspaper, not to buy it or read it.

Again, you are making this situation about the cartoonists doing something bad. That is wrong.

 

If anyone is like the white supremacists, its the Muslims, not the journalists.

Its funny how it gets twisted

 

It was a comparison. I explained if for you. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

What debate?

You refuse to acknowledge that freedom of speech, freedom of expression is a universal liberty that we (not you obviously) should hold very dearly.

Do I think WBC is disgusting? Yes. But I'm not going to go around shooting them up.

Do I think Pauline Hanson is a reprehensible human ? Yes.

Do I hate Peter Davis who said "If you are a child of a mixed race, particularly, if you will Asian-Caucasian or Aboriginal-white, you are a mongrel and that’s what happens when you cross dogs or whatever. I’m not a racist. I don’t believe I’m superior to a person of another culture, but I recognise that cultures are different.”

Yes.

So you know what I do? I don't listen to them, cause that is there right to say and believe what the want.

I don't go murdering in cold blood every human who insults my heritage, I don't go murdering every human who thinks people of mixed descent are mongrel dogs, because I've got a set of balls and I just move on with my life

You trying to justify the cartoonists deaths with "Don't insult their god, don't offend them" is fundamentally reprehensible, and insulting to the very liberties that ALLOW religion to even operate in the first place.

 

I agree, what debate.

 

Rep is flying off my keyboard!