LOL. Off topic! That reminds me: I actually bought seasons 1 & 2 of Sifl & Olly from ebay a while back (14 CDs of goodness). Email me if you're interested...
dude. . . BUY MY CIVIL WAR CORPSES!! you bet your sweet bippy I'm still interested. I can't believe you remembered. I will definitely e-mail you. it takes 14 cds to store seasons 1 & 2 of sifl & olly? that doesn't seem right. . . SUCKER!!!
oh my gosh, are you freaking kidding me??? sifl & olly was one of the greatest television programs in the history of the television programs!! i didn't know you could buy seasons!!!!
For the record, I don't believe that the 19-10 game is the be all end all of accomplishments...but in this team's young history, it is probably my favorite of accomplishments since I have always disliked the Cowboys. I posted the 19-10 because Cowboys fans get irate over it, and it amused me that DrewP was getting so irate over Texans fans being happy that Casserly made a shrewd deal in the Henson situation. Both are pretty pointless things to get upset over.
MadMax, ebay is a strange and wonderful place. For instance, check this out... By the way, you CAN buy the "lost" Season 3 DVD of S&O online (unless you have some serious ass buying online problems). However, Seasons 1 & 2 are not available. (Sorry for hijacking this thread. I'll stop now.)
It's not that it upset me, it just seems so pathetic. Texans fans being all over casserly's dick for this draft pick thing and the whole 19-10 thing is like stupid cowboy fans discussing playoffs at 6-9...... Somebody needed to say something along the lines of ,"Wait, casserly is not a genius." Nothing to go to blows over.
I know Cowboys' fans aren't the brightest in the bunch, but you do realize that the Texans' have only played two seasons, right?
fine can we call him a genius for getting davis where he got him I'm not saying he's a genius for drafting henson.. just a lot smarter than the gms who need qbs and didn't spend a 5th or 6th rounder on him
fire Mack Brown! buy my civil war corpses! of course we all know they've only played two seasons. that's what makes them irrelevant.
My point is, when a team is that young, you have to find certain things to hang your hat on until you start winning consistently. Right now, the #1 thing for Texans' fan is 19-10. Would be for any other team in the same situation.
and if the cowboys had won that game.. we'd have heard plenty of people saying.. "we own houston" and "that's the first loss of millions to come to the cowboys" etc.. there would have been cowboy fans rubbing that in.. the fact that our first loss was to them
Every reason that I, too, can't stand Cowboy fans. I actually remember their fans talking back in 1988 (or was it 89) when they were 1-15 about how good they were.
Not true for 99% of Cowboys fans. Most Cowboys fans I know used to route for the Oilers if they were not playing the Cowboys. Didn't always work the other way despite the Cowboys never beating the Oilers ever in a meanginful game worthy of a ture grudge. I don't get the bragging from the game two years ago either. Didn't the Cowboys finish like 5-11 that year, two below par teams going at it, so what. Anti-Cowboys fans, non-neccessarily pro-Texan fans, were the one's making the biggest deal about it. I am just glad the Boys are back in the playoffs and have great top leadership, I'd liek to see the Texas join them by making the playoffs.
desert.. if the cowboys beat the texans in that game.. you don't think they would have been rubbing it in..? they were calling shows bragging about preseason games and acting like it was comparable to a regular season victory last year.
Lemme out! Seriously, as an example, teams that want a 3rd round pick this year for a draft pick next year generally have to give up a 2nd rounder. Basically, you have to give up a higher pick in a future year to get a pick this year. As such, we had last year's 6th round pick. We probably could have traded it to another team for that team's 5th round pick this year. And so on. That's the fuzzy math. It just happens to be pretty universally accepted thinking.
i just disagree with the assertion that we could have merely traded a 6th round pick that year for a 5th round pick...in the abstract. i don't see any team doing that, given the relative worth of a 6th round pick. bottom line is they took a pick from a round where very few players every contribute from and turned it into a pick from a round where they can actually get a regular contributor. something from virtually nothing.
As to the first point, I've never understood it myself, I just know it happens. Some GM's can't wait so they trade a first rounder next year for a 2nd rounder this year. And the GM gets criticized for doing that by some, and praised by others. As for the bottom line, you're right, Casserly put us in a better position than we were. My only point was that this is not a blockbuster miracle trade. it was a good manuver and should be recognized as such.
riley -- i could see that with 2nd and 3rd round picks....i can't see it with 6th round picks, however. there is good relative value to a 3rd round pick...there is not good relative value for a 6th round pick. no way i'd give up next year's 5 for a freaking 6th round pick.