Breaking NEWS CA. Same Sex Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

indeed.

 

Regardless of people's opinions on them, why is it the government's job to police over it? Isn't this supposed to be the "land of the free"?.

Drugs: Alcohol, Tobacco, OTC Pills can be far more dangerous than anything illegal.
Abortion: It is regarding a woman's choice concerning her body. It is a decision which affects her far far more than it affects you.

 

You must be knew to the debate. This argument could go round and round. You think you are 100% right, but a pro-lifer could argue right back "It's a life. You no more have a right to end a baby's life than you do to kill the old lady in the grocery store. It's not your choice to commit murder." You could then argue back why it isn't a life. They could argue back that it is.

Round and round we go. Where we stop? Nobody knows.

 

Not trying to argue it, just saying, I don't want the government policing.

If we were to actually go by the Constitution, any laws concerning it would be left up to the states.

 

so, you're in favor of repealing Roe?

 

How would that solve the problem of government policing people?

 

you said it should be left up to the states. prior to Roe, it was.

 

The government still dictates who can marry who, not much to celebrate.

 

please don't do this.

the last thing i am in the mood to read is an afternoon of basso socratically trolling some wide eyed innocent's politic of "fresh" ideas over such a tired and stubborn dialogue. just let the kid think his ideas are original.

 

Interesting. I don't see the right screaming for abolishing the death penalty.

 

Roe is the worst written opinion ever, well worst opinion ever that wasn't written by O'Conner. The decision states something around the lines of, He [meaning the doctor] has the final choice over the abortion. I think this was fixed in a later case though.

Saying that I am pro-life in my personal situation although. If I knocked my girlfriend up I could easily finish school and provide the child with a great life. But I do not believe I can look at a woman and tell her what to do with her body. Usually I'd support states right's on this decision but you are being insensitive to low income households who might not have the funds to go to another state for an abortion, and those might be the people who have no business having a child in the first place.

A child who grows up unwanted who is beat will probably end up being a thug and a leach on the government anyways, and that is not life.

 

Or plain old deadly marriage for that matter...

 

Yeah, it means nothing when the battle is really going to be forged on the issue of state's rights. If something doesn't change to MAKE state's recognize it, a supreme court issue.

 

not it's not. you haven't meant some crazy republican spew his backward ideas I see.

 

nice. i may use that.

 

I'm definitely considered "right" on this board and I am anti-death penalty. (Though I do see a logical difference between abortion=death of innocent and death penalty=death of guilty.)

 

It doesn't matter- there are 5 conservative justices on the supreme court and 4 liberals. They'll vote it down when it gets there. Just like they'll vote down health care reform.

 

I have no context of your posting history/political preferences to go off, but I have read this like eight times and it still sounds to me like a fifth grader wrote this in crayon with his feet. I have no idea what you are trying to say, although it sounds profound.

 

doubtful.

 

People of both parties like to pretend that if the bench leans to the party opposite of them then every single ruling they will ever make will be a "shake your head" kind of decision where there is no basis in law, just political ideology. The truth is, this isn't even close to true. The SC generally makes very well thought out rulings that are seldom indefensible with logic. That doesn't mean you always agree with them, but it does mean that when the party that doesn't control the bench tries to vilify the court, they are usually wrong.