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[breaking] Malaysian Airlines loses contact with Beijing-bound flight, 239 on board

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    If it's aliens is it still terrizm?
     
  2. A_3PO

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    Either a mid-air explosion or the pilots being incapacitated. This is why I'm leaning towards foul play being involved. But let's see. While I understand the arguments why 4 stolen passports may not prove anything at this point, I'm still thinking the worst.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    Air France Flight 447 had no warning either.
     
  4. Svpernaut

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    My money would be on cabin depressurization due to equipment failure or fire. Pilots are knocked out due to lack of oxygen, plane flies on autopilot until enough structural integrity is lost for total destruction. This could have been anywhere from a few seconds, to a few minutes.

    Just think of what happened to Payne Stewart's plane.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, deaths of celebrities seem to happen in threes. I hope the same doesn't hold true for plane accidents. Flying again tonight...
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    You can't compare that to a commercial flight, different world. A fire would result in alarms and it doesn't kill a plane that fast.

    A ghost plane would have made it further and planes check in more often than that.

    We will all know in a few years.
     
  7. Fyreball

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    So are we circling in on an explosion on board at height?
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Doesn't mean a bomb did it. Planes are pressurized at height and if they lose the pressure quickly (China Airlines 611) big pieces come off. Explosive decompression. When that happens, the plane is traveling so fast it disintegrates.

    Basically, no one knows anything. They have a month to find the FDR and CVR. Could have gone down intact.
     
  9. FishBulb913

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    If it took a few minutes I would think at least one person would have sent out a text or email or phone call, something to a loved one somewhere. Whatever it was that happened, it happened very fast
     
  10. Nick

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    How would one do that if they're flying over the ocean?

    They don't have cell service and internet everywhere...
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    I feel like there wasn't any foul play involved and some sort of freak accident caused one of the safest planes to blow midair. That scares me.
     
  12. Svpernaut

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    I am waiting at the hotel bar now and have four flights later this week... no fear. Of course I choose to fly the safest airline ever, who flies only one class of aircraft (Southwest 737s).

    Another high altitude passenger jet with pressurization issues is certainly comparable. The size doesn't matter. If depressurization occurs, unconsciousness of passengers and crew will happen nearly immediately.

    I also said that depressurization could have occurred, knocking the pilots out, so they couldn't adjust the altitude or speed in the event that there was an issue with hull integrity from a fire or outside source. My comparison was meant for the depressurization.

    With that said, I'd lean for a full catastrophe off the bat... because if pressurization was lost, the pilots would have probably had enough time to grab their oxygen and/or sound some alarms or make a radio call. The lack of action is the most telling factor here. The flight had no chance because the pilots were lost nearly immediately.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    It isn't comparable because the backup systems and reliability of a 777 isn't comparable to a Leerjet.

    I don't know how you are jumping to these conclusions you have. I guess we will all find out if your guesses are right or not.
     
  14. Svpernaut

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    No high altitude airliner can account for hull breaches, meaning a hole in the plane. Regardless of safety equipment or protocols.

    Also, it is called speculating, which is what everyone here and in the media is doing.

    I know that if a pilot is conscious, he/she will do whatever they can to save their plane. So I have no doubt that either the plane blew up or broke apart in midair, or the pilots lost consciousness and the same thing occurred moments later.

    That is the only reason for the lack of action. The pilots were either dead (bomb or explosion) or unconscious (loss of hull integrity or depressurization). I'd imagine that the vast majority of aviation experts agree with my assessment. Pilots just don't let their planes go down without a fight.
     
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    There was a movie about a plane that kinda exploded via mechanical reasons. I think it came on lifetime.:eek:

    They landed safely.
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    It's called explosive decompression

    Again, this is a guess based on not much. Air France 447.

    Loss of situational awareness, focus on minutia, it isn't uncommon.
     
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    Aloha Airlines Flight 243


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    Miracle landing!
     
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    Meteorite?
     
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    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...ian-airlines-jet/story-e6frg95x-1226849346117

     

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