Breaking: Lamar Odom in hospital fighting for his life

You're missing the point. Mocking the compassionate responses of posters with life experience isn't helping you here.

No one claimed that LO was without flaws. No one has discounted the notion of free will.

The majority of us are acknowledging that LO has many unresolved issues that are possibly related to his past. We're expressing sympathy for that aspect of his life because it may have played a role in this latest incident.

It seems like you think people with money are inherently happy and free of physical, mental or emotional illness. Or, is it, to you, that having money rids one of his or her personal demons?

 

why give support and love to someone you don't even know when there are so many who need it around you?
when was the last time you did volunteer work to help those unfortunate individuals?
when was the last time you donated to charity?
do you even give a **** about the homeless people around you?
if odom was just a nameless guy on the news, you would not even care
he messed up on his on his own free will
overdosing on cocaine apparently isn't self-destructive behavior
spending $75k to screw two chicks at a time at a brothel is self-destructive behavior

sorry to rain on your parade but the answer to all of these is yes -
Have you ever had to find the means to cope with tragedy? Have you always made the healthiest decisions in the weakest of moments? Has your mind always been clear?

maybe because i dont drink alcohol, even a drop
maybe because i dont do drugs... ever
maybe because i dont associate with thugs who might bring me trouble
maybe because i dont party like crazy or screw so many chicks

all those above are my choices and i am responsible for them
yeah my life is boring
but i dont need your help or support

 

I guess I did miss the point then. I'm glad that we can agree.

 

I support and pray for plenty of people that know and have never met. It's great that you "don't need" my help or support. I'm going to disagree with you though. We all need support at some point in life. But, by all means, don't accept mine.

Is it "stupid" for me to pray for my fellow man also dealing with cancer, only because I don't know them? No, I wouldn't call it remotely ridiculous. It comes down to compassion without conditions. I don't need to know LO on a personal basis to have the sentiment of sadness for him, his family and the situation he's in.

Your entire post is all over the place, buddy. Initially, I thought you wanted to discuss LO's situation as it relates to choices, but it's clear that your mindset is in a different spot. Nobody asked you about all of your choices in life, nor did anyone ask you to clarify how you have never taken certain legal and illegal substances.

I don't know why you took it there, but if you're trying to draw a parallel between you and Lamar, it isn't working. Your lives, struggles and issues (though, you clearly don't have any) are on separate wavelengths. It doesn't make you or him any better in comparison.

Do I donate to charity or the homeless? Yes, but that's not the issue and it's not of your concern. Do I care about people who are not celebrities, especially when tragedy strikes? Most definitely. I don't know what you're getting at. It seems like you have this deep bitterness about the immense support LO is receiving. You should maybe consider where all of that is coming from.

Again, we're all human at the end of the day. Take away the money, race and politics and we're all the same.

So yeah, I do support and pray for plenty of people, many like Lamar, because it's one of many ways to show empathy for a situation that any one of us could find ourselves in. In a split second, your life, and mine, could be turned upside down. There's free will, but there is also a grey area that seems to be out of our control. I choose to support and pray for people on either end of the spectrum.

 

praying for a cancer patient is something everyone should do
not his/her fault they got cancer
helping and praying for individuals who are in a bad situation not of their own choice is something i totally agree with you
here's my point
odom did this to himself
but so many are trying to give him an excuse or apologize for his crazy behavior
yes, no one wants him to die
but to say he really had no choice but to do these crazy behavior because of his situation is just plain wrong
he should be responsible for his actions
he got to where he is because of his decisions

 

You don't know if this is completely accurate. You couldn't possibly determine what Lamar was in control of and what decisions he made. You're also ignoring the "cause" and making judgments only on a "result." Again, there's an area in here that neither one of us can judge. We're not Lamar, nor did we live his life, regardless of your beliefs about the validity of his pain.

It's much easier to pray for and support someone in the trenches of despair. It doesn't cost you a dime to wish someone well, even if you don't agree with the alleged choices and lifestyle that someone lives.

Take your life and *how you think you would deal* with certain circumstances out of the equation. You'll be better off for it in the long run.

I'm going to rock with support and prayers at this point in my life, without placing some sort of emphasis on my familiarity with a given person. Love is universal, and with that, I hope LO recovers or finds peace before his time ends.

 

people make mistakes. yes nobody forced him to go on a drug binge but what is wrong with wanting him to pull through? its still a human life. as humans, we have the ability to forgive.

 

What is sad to me is Odom has been a walking, talking disaster for several years now. He's been a train wreck in slow motion. Anybody with any lick of sense saw this coming a long time ago. Yet, NOBODY that knew him, in the NBA or in his personal circle, INTERVENED! And that speaks louder than all their stupid RIP and LOVE tweets.

It's all about selfishness. They don't care about Lamar. All they care about is what Lamar gave them. Lamar gave the brothel big $$. They didn't care how much crap he was taking. And they probably sold it to him. He gave his former teammates rings. They didn't care that he was walking the streets or they'd have done something about it. He gave the rappers some private moments and thrills by partying with them. They cared nothing about him except the next party they could get to with him. He gave the Kardashians more fame and notoriety. And they cared nothing about him except to add to their viewership. Now that his life is likely over, they give some sort of honorary salute to him with their tweets and bedside vigil because it draws more attention to themselves. But no real love or concern here. If any of them had really cared, they would have done something to stop this from happening. You say they did. I say it was just a token. None of those guys were serious about getting Lamar help. Because if they had really been serious, they wouldn't have had him monkeying around on the reality show, they wouldn't have been partying with him, and the NBA guys would have used their means to get him the captive help he needed. Kobe. Artest. The Kardashians. The Rappers. It's all about sensationalism and their celebrity. It's not about how much they love Odom. They proved they don't beyond what Lamar could do for them.

This has been a slow moving train wreck that you could see coming from miles away. And nobody intervened.

 

bballhollic that's awesome you are really on the inside of things. and know for certain that no family or friends have tried to talk to him and help.

i'm glad you are on this board. it feels now like i'm not just a fan, but actually an insider of the nba.

 

It is true what they they : You can only love others if you learn to love yourself.....

Celebs like those have taken that saying to another level, a level of sheer stupidity.

They love their ego more than their spouses, their friends....

It is well known around here and everywhere

 

check out this fool's comment about harden

https://www.facebook.com/erik.loo9

 

I wonder what is more difficult to overcome, depression and substance addiction or being an a-hole?

I am going to pray and hope that you get the support you need to overcome the challenges you face as you hopefully work your way through not being an a-hole.

Best of luck to you.

 

Lamar Odom's condition has improved in a hugely important way ... his heart is on the mend ... TMZ has learned.

Sources familiar with the situation tell us, tests on Lamar's heart Friday morning revealed his heart function is "much better." Doctors have told Lamar's friends and family this is a good sign of improvement, that a critical organ is responding.

Doctors have asked for "calm" in Lamar's room because they do not want him stimulated .... because non-stimulation promotes healing.

Toward that end, doctors have ordered that virtually no one have access to Lamar's room. We're told Khloe is still by Lamar's bedside.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/16/lamar-odom-heart-responding/

 

While that is good news, the important thing is his brain right now. I just hope he doesn't come out of this a vegetable.

 

People should forgive people
Except for when the lin fans insulted clutch, let them face doom

 

You sound like a dork virgin that is mad at the world because he can't get laid. Not even with $75K in a whorehouse.

 

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Yeah, we already said, it's Scotty Pippen, not Odom! :grin:

 

Chris Paul is offended.

 

So you just assume the worst of people because we're discussing a basketball player on a basketball forum instead of what...doing charity right now?

You're doing the exact same thing, Mr. Self Righteous.