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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. MadMax

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    El. Oh. El.
     
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  2. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    No, just the former president who refused to turn over government documents.
     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, it is common protocol for any FBI raid including this one. Can you point to one where they were forbidden from the use of lethal force?
     
  4. Xopher

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    Yes Trump almost got killed by the U.S. government. At a location he wasn't at, which the FBI verified he wasn't at, before they went in the location he wasn't at to "assassinate" him.
     
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    And worked with the secret service team that is assigned to the former president. But that all gets lost in the lie-telling from trump and his supporters...

     
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    Was lethal force authorized when they searched and found classified documents in Biden's garage (which he won't be prosecuted for of course)?

    It's not common protocol because it isn't common protocol to raid a former president's home with armed agents for a documents issue. It is insane in fact.
     
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    Don't know, but there wasn't a raid at Biden's. He notified them and invited them over.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    It isn't common too for a former President to hold onto sensitive material for years after being asked multiple times to return it and given several opportunities to cooperate with no consequence.
     
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    You are right. It is insane that a former president would have taken the documents, reused to hand them over, ordered people to hide and destroy them, showed them around to people without security clearance, and left them unsecured. That is insane. What isn't insane is the fact that the DOJ took measures to get the documents back, given the behavior of the person that had them.

    It's really fascinating that Trump supporters keep bringing up Biden's classified documents.

    It's actually a great comparison on what happens when one person cooperates, follow the legal requests and what happens when person, lies, destroys/tries to hide contrary to the legal requests.

    Do you have any evidence that lethal force wasn't authorized when they went to Biden's home?
     
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    LOL. The lengths the cult will go to desperately defend a guy who had lied, lied, lied, obstructed justice for months, and still had boxes of documents all over his damn house. How many chances would any person other than Trump get? They would have probably had their premises searched way sooner. He had all the chances in the world to come clean. But ....the guy is dirty. You don't forget you have documents when you have boxes and boxes of them in your bathroom, bedroom, or common areas.

    Come on man, the dude was a freaking lying criminal. But.....OMG, how dare they raid his home when told he still had those highly classified documents. How dare they use FBI protocol when performing a search. Good grief. They didn't even use force. They didn't come in busting down doors with guns blazing. It's such a crock of BS how Trump and MTG, and the MAGA Ministers of Missing information spread their twisted lies.

    There is a reason Judge Cannon and Trump are desperately trying to delay this trial. The evidence will put him away for years!!!! They know that!
     
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    The sitting senator from Texas, a day later after even the FBI addressed this offensive disinformation spread by trump and his followers, as a way to attract maga types to his podcast.

     
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    Not to be outdone, large marge decides to amp up her trump disinformation with additional disinformation...

     
  13. No Worries

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    I think that we all can agree that Trump is a self-serving, big fat f*cking ignorant idiot ... who seriously thinks he can with his mental powers declassified documents of the highest security level ... documents that he has not read since he is not a reader ... documents that he does not understand since he is profoundly ignorant ... just the kind of guy you want to be a caretakers of some of our nation's most precious secrets.

    Trump essentially double dog dared the DOJ/FBI to make him return the documents that he stole and refused to give back. The man is an idiot.

    Why would you or anyone defend him is beyond me?

    As an aside, look at all of the Trump defenders who are now in jail for protecting his not-so-loyal ass. What kind of loyalty has Trump shown in return? Prison visits? Thoughtful letters of encouragement? Promise to pardon (which only relieves some or all of the legal consequences resulting from a criminal conviction but not remove the criminal conviction from the record, so good luck owning a handgun in most states) if he wins re-election?
     
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    If someone in Biden's garage tried to fight them and they shot that person dead because they reasonably thought someone's life was threatened, they wouldn't have been prosecuted. Not just federal agents, if any cop is executing a warrant and you get in the way, they will remove you, detain you, mace you, arrest you, whatever, and keep on escalating until you submit. If escalating gets deadly, they'll make sure its you that pays, not them. Usually the Trumpers like that reality.
     
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    Why should the rest of us jump up and down every time the conservative media tosses a new, insipid shiny object for their viewers / clickers?
    I mean, their choir believes what they want. Debunking things with facts and logic is so 20th century.

    We just need to say "well bless your heart" and move on, maybe post about a movie in the Hangout or something.
     
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    Well bless your heart. @B-Bob
     
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    Yes let's ask the alleged criminal to search his property...
     
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    At some point some maga gunman will go crazy from these tweets and it will be all the fault of trump and large marge...

     
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    Yet again, MAGA politicians think very little of the intellect of their supporters.

    These professional trolls have gone a step too far this time, though. They are tapping into known anger and deranged minds, posing a direct threat to law enforcement.
     
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