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Breaking down the Rockets: A team of losers

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Free Agent, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. Sane

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    It's true, our players probably have a horrible career wins/losses record, but that's nothing.

    There are so many ways to fix that:

    1) Certain coaches or "The Musselman Approach": Musselman has made the Warriors WINNERS, while still losing more games than they've won. But still, they're not "losers".

    2) A harsh playoff exit.

    3) ONE influential player. An Avery Johnson, Mario Elie, Charles Barkley, Micheal Jordan, etc...

    4) Have lots and lots of money, not care about losing it, acquire 13 assistant coaches, buy your way to a winning team. AKA, "The Mark Cuban Approach"


    Francis is not a loser, I'll tell you that. neither is Yao. That's what's most important, because everyone else is expendable anyway.
     
  2. Free Agent

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    Maybe I missed it, but I can't remember the last time Griffin dunked. Remember at the end of last season when he said he was going to spend the off season bulking up so he could bang inside?

    He is Horry Jr.
     
  3. AGBee

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    He dunked on Dirk in the last Dallas game. And he needs to do that more often.
     
  4. Free Agent

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    You are correct on both counts.
     
  5. GATER

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    I wonder how much a "winner" Horry would have been if he hadn't been on a team with Olajuwon or had remained in Pheonix instead of playing with Shaq.

    Career 8.1 ppg, 5.3 rebs, 34% 3pt%...

    IMO, in this instance having a fistful of rings is more based upon luck than skill or a winners attitude.
     
  6. hikanoo49

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    I partially agree with you but at least Horry was smart enough to ride his big man. Sadly I cant say that about our current staff of misfits.

    Imagine Eddie playing with Shaq. Will Eddie still shoot 3 point airballs when his man leaves to double Shaq?
     
  7. pgabriel

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    Why do you call Steve a gangster. Not playing good basketball doesn't warrant such stereotyping. You wonder why some black people are sensitive. Let me see, black basketball player who has never been in trouble gets labeled gangster. Lets go further, the reason he is probably labeled gangster is because that's what everyone associates with today's NBA, players who aren't fundamentally sound and some who have gotten into trouble. So they must all be gangsters, especially when they don't play well. What warrants calling Steve a Gangster, or Mobley, or Moochie?
     
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    We do have one person that has winning experience. Your head coach, Rudy Tomjanovich. Unfortunately, everyone wants him kicked out of town so we can bring in a rookie coach or something similar who really has no winning experience.

    Most young teams like the Rockets don't have a coach that's done anything. He's the only coach in the league that I can think of that's been here through basically 2 generations of basketball teams. The Grizzlies, Warriors, and Bulls all have less experienced coaches than Rudy, and look where they are.
     
  9. Free Agent

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    Diehard,

    Don't use logic...it just confuses them. :)
     
  10. DreamWeaver

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    Winning experience. What's that? And how does it help players with no "winning experience"? :confused:

    I have been a Rox fan since the arrival of the Dream in 1984 and I have yet to see this "winning experience" passed on from one generation to the next. If we think that Rudy's "winning experience" is going to take this Rox team to the next level, we'd better think again. IMHO, Rudy is doing a less than adequate job getting the most of the personnel on the Rox team and now may be a good time for him to move on.
     
  11. Rockets-R-Us

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    To DieHard Rocket and Free Agent -

    You must be high! You think Rudy has more experience as a coach than the Grizz coach Hubie Brown? Hubie was coaching when Rudy was still bricking shots at Michigan, and the way it's looking, the Grizz might just pass the Rockets by in the hunt for a ring (if Rudy stays around that is...).

    Another excellent draft and some crafty trades and F.A. signings will have "The Logo" and his team doing quite nicely thank you. He has Pau Gasol and knows how to use him, unlike Rudy.

    Who in the hell ever invented that "let's bring the Rookie along slowly" B.S. anyway? Who has that ever worked out for? Rookies only learn from being on the floor and playing real minutes with real players in real game situations.

    If we had given Yao more minutes (and shots) earlier in the year, we probably would have won some of the crap games we lost (like Golden State).

    I honestly cannot believe that anyone can still defend Rudy given the evidence at hand. This team could easily have 30+ wins. But Rudy has either been outcoached, or allowed his players to make the most idiotic decisions REPEATEDLY throughout games!!!

    I will not let up until the Rox have secured a playoff spot and done more than 0-3 in the first round!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  12. DreamWeaver

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    Great post, Rockets-R-Us. Rudy is not the only thing wrong with this Rox team but he should be held accountable for mishandling this mess. We often ridicule Yao-only fans on this forum. What about these Rudy-only fans?

    In the real world, if you don't perform, you lose your job. For this Rox fan, Rudy has underperformed. Down with Rudy.
     
  13. daoshi

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    Come on, give the guy some time, at least until the end of the season. I don't know much about the previous seasons, but this year's team has so many new elements in it. They are changing they style of playing from guard centered to center oriented, this process takes time, will be frustrate at times.

    Rudy may or may not be the right coach for this group of players, but we need to give him the time to prove it.

    BTW, I think Rice's injury really hurts the Rockets. This team desperately needs his veteran leadership and stable influence. I cannot believe I just said this about Rice. I was the biggest RICE basher during the MS. Rice and PJ incident.:D
     

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