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Breaking: Charges filed in mueller investigation

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    Dots connecting...

    Jared Kushner's team turned over documents to special counsel in Russia investigation
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/02/...ler-documents-russia-investigation/index.html
     
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    Old age setting in? Trump's memory getting foggy again...

    Trump: 'I don't remember much' about Papadopoulos meeting
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/trump-responds-george-papdopoulos-meeting-244510
     
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    This conversation is just something else -


    Trump can't recall whether he has the worlds greatest memory.... you seriously can't make this crap up, and its like the Onion and the real news have purged or something.
     
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    Must be getting close... so Gaetzz, Biggs, and Gohmert to the defense.

    Republicans just introduced a resolution to remove Mueller from the Trump-Russia investigation
    http://www.businessinsider.com/repu...move-bob-mueller-from-special-counsel-2017-11
     
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    URANIUM ONE: WHY ROGER STONE’S PLOT TO OUST ROBERT MUELLER “MAKES NO SENSE”

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    Stone isn’t alone in hoping to leverage alleged Democratic scandals to trigger Mueller’s recusal. Multiple Republican members of Congress have suggested, without evidence, that the special counsel is hopelessly compromised. Fox News has kept up a constant drumbeat of criticism aimed at Mueller’s office. Even The Wall Street Journal editorial board published a controversial op-ed last week calling on Mueller to “serve the country by resigning” so as to allow the Justice Department to credibly investigate the F.B.I.’s handling of the infamous Steele dossier.

    But according to several legal experts I spoke to, Stone’s plot to knee-cap Mueller is fundamentally flawed. “You need a special counsel in situations where high-ranking people in the current White House are implicated in a criminal investigation, including potentially the president,” Richard Painter, who served as an ethics lawyer during the George W. Bush administration, explained. “That is why we appointed a special counsel in the Russia investigation and indeed we didn’t end up getting one until President Trump fired the director of the F.B.I.”

    If the Trump administration wanted to investigate Uranium One, meanwhile, they wouldn’t need a special prosecutor to do so. “I don’t understand why you would need a special counsel when no one is really concerned that Jeff Sessions and anyone else appointed by Trump is going to be anything other than diligent,” former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti said of any potential investigation into the Obama-era Uranium One sale. “If anything, they will be overly so,” he added. Were the F.B.I. to probe the deal, there’s no legal reason why that should affect Mueller’s prosecution of unrelated crimes.

    It is unclear what, exactly, a special counsel would investigate in the first place. The Hill reported earlier this month that the F.B.I. “gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States,” but ultimately the Obama D.O.J. did not bring charges in the case. Stone argued to the Daily Caller that this amounts to a “cover up.”

    But Ira Matetsky, a litigation lawyer at Manhattan-based firm Ganfer & Shore, said the case laid out by Stone falls short of meriting an investigation at all. “The fact that someone might think that it was a mistake to approve the Uranium deal or that it was a bad deal or that the deal was not going to ‘Make America Great Again’ is not evidence of a crime. That is a policy disagreement,” Matetsky told me. “There would need to be a credible reason to believe . . . that a crime was committed and that a crime was committed by someone who the D.O.J. was prosecuting.”

    Even in the event that the Justice Department identified what they believed to be crimes committed by members of the Obama administration or the Clinton-led State Department, it’s hard to see how they could possibly involve Mueller. Sol Wisenberg, a white-collar criminal defense attorney who served as the deputy independent counsel in the Whitewater-Lewinsky investigation, noted that as head of the F.B.I., Mueller wouldn’t have made the decision not to bring charges in the Uranium One investigation—that task would have fallen to the D.O.J. “So, even if the failure to timely prosecute people in Uranium One is a crime, rather than a political embarrassment, I don’t see Mueller ever being anything other than a potential witness in [an] investigation,” Wisenberg said, adding, “The only basis for conflict would be if Mueller was a potential subject or target of a Uranium One criminal investigation. . . . As a practical matter, Rosenstein would never fire Mueller over something like this.”

    Arguably, Stone may have overplayed his hand in signaling his plot to save Trump from Mueller’s probe. “If you want to make a suggestion that something is going to make a legal conflict of interest, the last thing you want to do is go out and announce that you are making the suggestion for blatantly political reasons,” Matetsky said. “He has reduced the chances that this could go anywhere by almost advertising that it will have a blatantly result-oriented motive.”
     
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    Louie Gohmert is always good for a laugh, but it's hard to laugh sometimes knowing that this assclown wields some smidgen of actual power in Washington.
     
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    Trust me, nobody loves Theater of the Absurd more than me. I'm a huge fan of Dadaism. I so want to appreciate this. But I did that before with G.W. Bush. I thought he'd be hilarious. And he was until he invaded Iraq. That cost lives. So much else took the funny out of it. Trump is worse. IT should be entertainmant. The fact that it's not makes it even more sad.
     
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    Hahaha...

    I swear Trump talks just like that slick lawyer from My Cousin Vinny. Lol
     
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    The noose tightens...

    Special Counsel Mueller Issued Subpoena for Russia-Related Documents From Trump Campaign Officials
    Senate committee also pressures Kushner lawyer to turn over more documents

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/specia...ents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492
     
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    Papadopoulos claimed Trump phone call and larger campaign role
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/17/george-papadopoulos-trump-greece-russia-245668
     
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    But Trump doesn't remember making the call, so it does not count.
     

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