Didn't see the news later this morning, huh? To be fair, that was a very compelling Fox News piece on the hamburger emoji.
While I wouldn't have said that the Manafort indictment is boring, I absolutely agree with the rest of your post. The big news today is Papadopoulos pleading gulity and that he has been cooperating with the investigation for months. Meanwhile, the usual brainwashed trump supporters here continue to babble their increasingly freaked out nonsense. I told everyone months ago that this reminded me of Watergate. No one, except for a relative few, and I was one of them, believed Woodward and Bernstein's reporting. I had the vibe at the time that Tricky Dick and his minions were going down. This is very, very similar, except far worse. Nixon didn't conspire with a hostile foreign government to help get himself reelected, and the thought wouldn't have occured to him. I'll give Nixon that much. It is obvious to me that Mr. trump and members of his campaign conspired with the Russian government to help insure trump "won" the election. It is looking very, very bad for the reputations of some members who have made countless posts defending the man. With all due respect, you are looking like fools.
I expect more deflection to Hillary as they follow the lead of Trump's propaganda efforts. Even CohertRed is acknowledging the seriousness of the crimes so even Trump fans are realizing the seriousness of the moment. However we can anticipate a continued flood of "But Hillary..." conspiracy theory which I for one say... investigate everyone if you need to, but one side does NOT discount from the other, and if you are going to peddle a Hillary/Obama conspiracy theory to deflect, at least do your homework to come to some realistically tangible theory. At the very least you need some sort of motive which seems to me to be "Hillary colluded with Russia to help Russia help Trump win the election"... which is insanity from a motive standpoint. It just removes any credibility you might have left as a Trump supporter if you chase down these rabbit holes with no motive whatsoever other than deflection.
I'm not going to mention the woman's name. Why? Because she had nothing to do with the trump campaign colluding with the Russian government to help get Mr. trump "elected."
Where Is Bob Mueller Headed Next? After charges against two Trump campaign members, and a guilty plea from a third, where will the special counsel’s investigation go from here? Eleven legal experts chart a course. By POLITICO MAGAZINE October 30, 2017 ‘This is just the bottom of the second inning in a long game’ Paul Rosenzweig, former deputy assistant secretary for policy at the Department of Homeland Security and founder of Red Branch Consulting ‘I wouldn’t bet on these being the last charges’ David Sklansky, professor at Stanford Law School ‘If this isn’t evidence of collusion … it is hard to see what is’ Samuel Buell, law professor at Duke University and a former federal prosecutor who led the Justice Department’s prosecution of Enron Corporation ‘Does not bode well for others associated with Trump’s campaign who have allegedly made similar false statements’ Lori E. Lightfoot, attorney at Mayer Brown and former assistant U.S. attorney in the criminal division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Illinois ‘The real story here is Papadopoulos’ Peter Zeidenberg, partner at Arent Fox who served as assistant special counsel in the prosecution of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby ‘A lot will depend on Trump’s eventual interview with Mueller about obstruction of justice’ Norman Eisen, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, chief White House ethics lawyer from 2009 to 2011, and ambassador to the Czech Republic from 2011 to 2014 ‘A potentially devastating message to Trump and his inner circle’ Mark S. Zaid, national security attorney in Washington, D.C ‘It is still not clear whether this will ever lead to charges against Trump’ Laurie L. Levinson, professor at Loyola Law School ‘Mueller will try to use leverage to obtain evidence against other ‘dominoes’” Alan Dershowitz, emeritus professor of law at Harvard University ‘Whatever Papadopoulos lied about is more likely to be directly connected to the campaign’ Robert Weisberg, professor at Stanford Law School ‘There will be lots of speculation today … but at this stage it can only be speculation' Alex Whiting, professor at Harvard Law School focusing on domestic and international criminal prosecution issues, and a former federal prosecutor Just a few legal scholars with their two cents...kerfuffle.
... this disproves the Trump defense of "before the campaign"... Firm in Mueller indictment got RNC funds for work on Trump campaign http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article181708151.html
I'm quite sure the world is full of seasoned operators. Bush: fool me once, try to said fool me twice, but we get it.. Trump people: Trump was and will always be a fool, thus can never be guilty
Imo, the only worthy counter-argument for Trump. It could be that Trump was a willing collaborator with a Russian influence campaign, but it's also possible he was an unwitting target by American proxies of the Russian government. But even as I think this is the best alternative argument, I still can't really square it with Trump's bizarrely pro-Russian stance, and all the lies that guys like Kushner and Sessions were caught in regarding Russia. So, I don't really believe it, but it's possible.
Difference between two sides Democrat possibly involved in Russian scandal Libtard: "Democrats implicated in Russian collusion? Good, I hope they get to the bottom of it and put them in jail. Clean up our government." Republican possibly involved in Russian scandal Trumpanzee: "Wut?? BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY!?! Blaaaarg lol lock her up. LOL reaching for straws, Trump Russia theory is falling apart herp derp herp derp derp".
Word on the street is that Donald Trump was at the meeting but wasn't paying attention, so it does not count.
The Daily Beast tweets 'Mueller probe appears to hit Democratic powerhouses, too,' and Preet Bharara echoes the sentiments of all reasonable people with his reply, 'Good.'
