yep, all it has gained is to help to deliver the white house to the dems in 2008! OOPS IV: THIS TIME IT'S FOR REAL
Since when do "pardoned" people pay fines and remain on probation? Only at Hippie Hollow, I reckon...
We fully recognize that the Constitution provides that commutation decisions are a matter of presidential prerogative and we do not comment on the exercise of that prerogative. We comment only on the statement in which the President termed the sentence imposed by the judge as “excessive.” ....So in other words if Bush just stated it's his "prerogative" on why,...there would be no comment?...O.K. ....makes no sense.
The only reason Bush commuted this sentence was in response to the court that ruled that Libby would have to start serving his sentence during the appeals process. I assume Bush believes that Libby will (and SHOULD) be exonerated in his appeal, and as such does not deserve jail time.
LOL, no he won't be. THe DC Circuit panel that refused to let him out wasn't exactly a panel of bleeding hearts.
What's funny is that the people who criticize Muslims for not condemning Muslim terrorists are the same ones who are willing to support the criminals of the Republican party. This is the mindset that perpetuates war and killing of innocents.
From what I understand, at every level of this trial, those who have passed judgment on Libby have been Republicans. lawyers, judges, all
I read the reasoning of Bush's Constitutional "prerogative",...and I also understand when a poster says how can you ask muslims to decry muslim terrorists, when your political affiliation seems to excuse it's own criminal act?.... I would be on board and point/give the finger at the party I affiliate with on this instance, but there are factors which make me feel there is something there on a reason.... That is (from what I read) 1. a special counsel should not have been appointed, nor should the investigation have been pursued after the Justice Department learned who leaked Ms. Plame’s name to columnist Robert Novak. 2. Mr. Libby nor anyone else has been charged with violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act or the Espionage Act, which were the original subjects of the investigation. 3. Mr. Libby was handed a harsh sentence based in part on allegations never presented to the jury. So, I don't argue for the reasoning, but I agree and see that there is...a "reasoning", that critics (such as Thompson among others) have stated as a basis for a reason of commution...
I suppose we shall see...The DC Circuit may or may not strike down the reasoning, but as it stands now the refutation is non-existant, thus my statement stands...
giddy, I know the difference between a pardon and commutation. In this case, they amount to the same thing, except it keeps Libby from being compelled to testify before Bush and Cheney's terms are over, as was pointed out. An even better solution to Bush and Cheney's woes regarding Libby's perjury charge and what he knows. If you recall, he was supposed to have information about Cheney's role in the Plame Affair, and suddenly did not. I have no doubt, whatsoever, that Libby was told that should he be convicted, and kept his mouth shut about Cheney, he would never sure any jail time. This insures it. D&D. Bush is the Living Embodiment of the Peter Principal.
The thread title from the main page is humorous: It says, "Bush Commutes..." I fully expected the title to be "Bush Commutes in an Abrams Tank, Enraging Peace Protesters and Environmentalists".
George Bush has no shame. And he has clearly given up hope of being the president of all the people of this country. In fact, he has clearly given up hope of ever rising above a 30% or so approval rating. It's sad. The country (not to mention the world) rallied around him after 9/11 and he did a better job squandering that support than I could have ever imagined. He could have been a uniter. In fact, he could have led an unbelievably unified world in a fight against terror that probably would have resulted in unabashed victory. But he preferred a shameful power grab. Go, GOP. Enjoy your 'victory.' It will be brief. You have lost independents for the forseeable future. And you have lost the vast majority of American voters. But DonkeyMagic's partly right in his never-ending quest to excuse Bush from fault. It's not all his fault. In fact, it's not even mostly his fault. The main fault belongs to those of you who voted for him. Hang your heads in shame.
What's the matter, Batman... forget that it doesn't matter who you vote for, because they're all the same? Right. D&D. Replicant Democrat with a Tan.
exactly. my interest in politics never leaves. but my hope for this country ebbs and flows and right now i dont trust hardly any of those people. i guess barack obama seems somewhat sincere. hopefully if he actually gets elected most of this country and the world will be able to tell a profound difference in what a good president and crappy president is. we shall see
