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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    What does this peaceful protest have to do with J6?
     
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    He's trying to equate loud protesting in a stage building with January 6. The usual false equivalence.
     
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    Many posters here and throughout social media have become nothing more than empty vessels that they fill up from doom scrolling and then repost here, FB, X or other forums. People like Caylar Ellington aren’t real they are just memes to them to own the libs or mock the wokies. They have no interest in learning more about the actual situations and anything that counters their a priori view of the incidence is just dismissed, ignored, or they rely upon an “influencer” to tell them what to think about it than discuss or debate it themselves.
     
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    It's just sad that people are so caught up in the cult mentality that they are willing to go to jail for a man who doesn't give a flying **** about them yet they can't see it, they survive on lies being served up to them by snake oil grifters, yet the cult keeps coming back for more

    An Idaho woman convicted of felony charges related to the Capitol attacks on Jan. 6, 2021 was sentenced to 30 months behind bars on Wednesday—and then immediately hopped on Facebook to complain about it to her followers. “I understood what Jesus felt like when he was in the garden of Gethsemane praying and felt so alone,” said Yvonne St Cyr, according to KTVB. The 55-year-old was also handed 36 months’ probation, $2,000 in restitution, and a $1,000 fine in a sentencing hearing that was punctuated by what NBC News labeled her “bizarre” 45-minute rant. “I did the right thing,” St Cyr said of her actions on Jan. 6. “I know it sounds delusional.” In her subsequent Facebook live video, St Cyr explained that her prison report date was six weeks away. “So we’ve got six weeks for America to figure it out and stand up and get some truth, or I’m going to jail,” she said. In the meantime, she advised her followers to “just keep watching Tucker, keep spreading the truth, keep talking about the corruption, keep sharing, and we will bring the system down.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...1&cvid=ded8b43d542646f4b8d4bae6267eba18&ei=31
     
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    There are times I really do feel l bad for these people. I know a few people who have gone down this rabbit hole and have wrapped them up in grievance and conspiracy. I also have to remember these people are adults who should have the capacity to make informed choices. Yet so many of them have just mentally walled themselves off from anything that would counter their views.
     
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    What Mitt Romney Saw in the Senate

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...omney-retiring-senate-trump-mcconnell/675306/

    text message from Angus King, the junior senator from Maine: “Could you give me a call when you get a chance? Important.”

    Romney calls, and King informs him of a conversation he’s just had with a high-ranking Pentagon official. Law enforcement has been tracking online chatter among right-wing extremists who appear to be planning something bad on the day of Donald Trump’s upcoming rally in Washington, D.C. The president has been telling them the election was stolen; now they’re coming to steal it back. There’s talk of gun smuggling, of bombs and arson, of targeting the traitors in Congress who are responsible for this travesty. Romney’s name has been popping up in some frightening corners of the internet, which is why King needed to talk to him. He isn’t sure Romney will be safe.

    Romney hangs up and immediately begins typing a text to Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader. McConnell has been indulgent of Trump’s deranged behavior over the past four years, but he’s not crazy. He knows that the election wasn’t stolen, that his guy lost fair and square. He sees the posturing by Republican politicians for what it is. He’ll want to know about this, Romney thinks. He’ll want to protect his colleagues, and himself.

    Romney sends his text: “In case you have not heard this, I just got a call from Angus King, who said that he had spoken with a senior official at the Pentagon who reports that they are seeing very disturbing social media traffic regarding the protests planned on the 6th. There are calls to burn down your home, Mitch; to smuggle guns into DC, and to storm the Capitol. I hope that sufficient security plans are in place, but I am concerned that the instigator—the President—is the one who commands the reinforcements the DC and Capitol police might require.”

    McConnell never responds.
     
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    Again, this would seem highly illegal...

     
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    If that **** is true, that's the highest treason I can begin to imagine.
     
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    Would agree with you, but about 35% of Americans have greatly expanded what activity can be included as "normal politics," so... it is all fine.
     
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    Two more found out that you FAFO...

     
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    It’s mind boggling that a man who
    Had to shut down his foundation because he was defrauding veterans (not to forget the other stuff) is somehow considered a patriot who deserves high office again.
     
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    The Rs were trying to burn it all down.

    Just saying.
     
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    Obvious terrorists.
     
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    The man has to write a book, but all of the future proceeds from it will go entirely to security detail for his family...

    "Every time Donald Trump makes a strong argument, I’d say, ‘Remind me again about the Clorox.'"

    “Authoritarianism is like a gargoyle lurking over the cathedral, ready to pounce.”

    “A very large portion of my party really doesn’t believe in the Constitution.”

    • Romney entered the Senate hoping to be a moderate Republican voice and work across the aisle, but grew frustrated by the focus on theatrics over legislation.
    • He was dismayed by the cynicism and hypocrisy he saw from Republican colleagues like Mitch McConnell, who privately criticized Trump but publicly defended him.
    • Romney quotes McConnell telling him after the impeachment managers presented their case: "They nailed him." But McConnell still pushed for a quick acquittal.
    • After January 6, Romney yelled at Josh Hawley, "You're the reason this is happening!" He saw Hawley and others as calculatingly undermining democracy for political gain.
    • A Republican congressman told Romney he wanted to impeach Trump after January 6 but feared for his family's safety from Trump supporters if he did.
    • Romney tried working with Republicans like Ron Johnson who he felt were sincerely conservative, even if he disagreed with their views. But he refused to work with Josh Hawley, calling him too smart to actually believe Trump's election lies.
    • Watching candidates like J.D. Vance pander to Trumpism made Romney conclude "you sell yourself so cheap" for political gain. He lost respect for them.
    • Romney considered running for president again as an independent just to challenge Trump on the debate stage. But he feared siphoning votes from Democrats.
    • He decided not to seek reelection because after age 75 he wanted to devote time to his family while still healthy. But he also saw the GOP as lost and thought of leaving it
    • Romney was fixated on the "Histomap" in his office showing the rise and fall of civilizations, seeing parallels to the fragility of American democracy.
    • He was shocked when Mike Pence visited Republican Senators to coordinate impeachment strategy, calling it "Stunning to me that he would be there. There is not even an attempt to show impartiality."
    • Romney had long been put off by Pence’s pious brand of Trump sycophancy. No one, he told me, has been “more loyal, more willing to smile when he saw absurdities, more willing to ascribe God’s will to things that were ungodly than Mike Pence.”
    • During the Capitol attack, a police officer told Romney "Go back in! You're safer inside the chamber." This symbolized to him the failure of GOP leaders like McConnell to take his warnings seriously.
    • Romney yelled at the insurrectionists himself - a reporter recounted him shouting "This is what you’ve gotten, guys!"
    • Romney called January 6 an "insurrection, incited by the president" in his speech that night. He asked if his colleagues "weigh our own political fortunes more heavily than we weigh the strength of our republic."
    • He was mystified by Republicans like Hawley still objecting to the election results after the riot: "They know better! Josh Hawley is one of the smartest people in the Senate."
    • Romney found Trump supporters screaming at him with their kids present at a Utah convention "unsettling." He realized "There are deranged people among us" who could physically threaten elected leaders.
    • He told a colleague the GOP was becoming a party that "really doesn’t believe in the Constitution." He feared American democracy could fall like civilizations on the Histomap.
    • Romney saw himself as the type to "rush toward a crisis" out of a sense of obligation. But by the end he wondered if that tendency had blinded him to how far gone the GOP was.
    • Romney was bothered by the "high-school-cafeteria quality" of Senate GOP lunches, feeling like an outsider as a Mormon and reliving his teenage alienation.
    • When first pitching him on acquitting Trump fast, McConnell said vulnerable senators needed to avoid tough votes near their elections. Romney replied he couldn't make promises.
    • Ann Romney just said "I'm surprised" when Mitt told her he was leaning against convicting Trump. He sensed her disappointment in him.
    • Romney knelt on the Senate floor and prayed before deciding to convict Trump. He wrote the conviction speech draft at his kitchen table.
    • His family paid $5,000 a day for private security after January 6 due to threats. He knew most colleagues couldn't afford protection from violent threats.
    • Romney tried leaving damage unrepaired in the Capitol to preserve the insurrection's memory. But he saw the GOP rapidly whitewash and deny the attack.
    • He mused about grabbing J.D. Vance and screaming "This is not worth it!" about his prep-to-MAGA transformation just to win a Senate seat.
    • Romney told Manchin that at their age, senators should think about "oaths and legacy, not just reelection." But Manchin voted to acquit.
    • Romney approached Manchin about starting a centrist third party called "Stop the Stupid" that would back whichever major candidate wasn't too extreme.
    • Angus King called Romney on January 2nd, before January 6th, to warn him about violent threats against Congress circulating online. This alarmed Romney about what was coming.
    • Ted Cruz and Mike Lee politely ignored Romney when he protested their participation in the plan to object to the election results after the insurrection.
    • Lindsey Graham told CNN he wasn't even pretending to be an impartial juror in Trump's impeachment trial, foreshadowing the Senate GOP's loyalty to Trump over impartiality.
    • After Romney's impeachment vote, Paul Ryan called him to warn that people who tried to get him elected in 2012 would abandon him now. Romney voted to convict anyway.
    • Romney visited Joe Manchin's houseboat in 2020 and told him "We're both 72. We should probably be thinking about oaths and legacy, not just reelection" regarding impeachment.
    • Romney tried to yell some sense into Ron Johnson about his obsession with Hunter Biden conspiracies, blurting out "Ron, is there any conspiracy you don't believe?" But Johnson was sincere in his views.
    • In weekly GOP Senate lunches, Romney often sat by Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. He muttered objections to their election vote gambit to them, but they politely ignored him.
    • Romney thanked McConnell for sticking up for him against Trump.
      “It wasn’t for you so much as for him,” McConnell replied. “He’s an idiot. He doesn’t think when he says things. How stupid do you have to be to not realize that you shouldn’t attack your jurors?
     
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