Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

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When you are breaking and entering with armed and dangerous rioters you have chosen to become part of the mob of domestic terrorists. The threat was real, and she became a casualty of the mob, unlike the casualties of the innocent men trying to defend our nation's Capitol from those insurrectionists.

 

That'd have been a horrific outcome. I think the Capitol Police did a terrific job showing restraint in a chaotic situation and I wish police could always be as judicious in the use of force. While I think the political fallout from a mass casualty event would have been unpredictable, I'm doubtful that we would come away thinking more strongly that the rioters were radicalized terrorists who got what they deserved. I think it's much more likely that public sympathy would swing more strongly in their direction and the narrative would be about the brutal government crackdown. I suppose you could say it'd be more sobering to the nation if 260 officers were killed that day. But there sure as hell isn't worth it.

I think things are working out fine as it actually was. The insurrection failed with minor loss of life, and the Justice Dept is winning confessions and convictions from many participants. Trump keeps pushing an election fraud story, but doesn't really have any material from Jan 6 he can use.

 

That'd have been a horrific outcome. I think the Capitol Police did a terrific job showing restraint in a chaotic situation and I wish police could always be as judicious in the use of force. While I think the political fallout from a mass casualty event would have been unpredictable, I'm doubtful that we would come away thinking more strongly that the rioters were radicalized terrorists who got what they deserved. I think it's much more likely that public sympathy would swing more strongly in their direction and the narrative would be about the brutal government crackdown. I suppose you could say it'd be more sobering to the nation if 260 officers were killed that day. But that sure as hell isn't worth it.

I think things are working out fine as it actually was. The insurrection failed with minor loss of life, and the Justice Dept is winning confessions and convictions from many participants. Trump keeps pushing an election fraud story, but doesn't really have any material from Jan 6 he can use.

 

Yet you have a majority of “Republicans” believing his lies. An inexplicable statistic illustrating a grave danger to the Republic, in my opinion.

 

Democracy is on the verge of collapse.....

 

And yet we are and the left wing media hasn’t reported the great news. @MojoMan @Salvy what did the newsletter say?

 

What the ....

 

No, the biggest danger is that you have a big majority of Republican politicians who know damn well he is lying, and do surely nothing to stop the lies! Nothing! They have chosen to blackball and smear anyone who breaks the truth. That is the scariest part.

 

I dislike and don't trust Lindell at all, his store does not even sell waifu pillows.

 

A few hundred Republican politicians who are willing to back any lie, no matter how dangerous, in a quest for personal power versus tens of millions of Americans who are ignorant enough to vote in support of those lies? I think the tens of millions of fools are worse.

Our country, as a whole, should be far above falling for such abject dishonesty. Capable, as our "body politic," to be educated enough to differentiate between lying con artists and the men and women who genuinely have to interests of the United States at the top of their agenda.

I'm not seeing it, and not for the first time. Short of a miracle, we're being beaten by a minority political party. Why? The majority of the voting public is too busy "fighting" each other to put aside differences and unite for the good of the country.

 

I understand your point, but when leaders are willing to use this tactic to fool, incite, and get support they are the more dangerous ones. Hitler is a perfect example. I don't blame the Germans who were manipulated and brainwashed as much as I blame the leader of the country spreading that propaganda and lies. That being said, yes, Americans have plenty of resources now that are available to them that would dispute that propaganda as pure lies. If they choose to remain ignorant, loyal, and brainwashed then it's because they are not much different than those in a cult, which is far different than the Germans who saluted Hitler and fought for his war.

 

And he dares to say he's a man of the people??

 

He's fake AF... Profiting from the people who believe his nonsense. Dude is a joke....

 

Good to see you come around on Trump.

 

I'm still for Trump, I think hands down he is a better president than Biden... I hate some of these clowns grabbing on to their own narrative and not knowing when to stop.. The whole "I have proof the election was stolen" has gotten old and stupid... Let it go, its over...

 

It's this kind and of stuff that is so dividing. They couldn't just say Happy Columbus Day. Nope. They had to throw in that woke left mob remark.



I'm sure those in the south who inherited the plantation homes of their ancestors want the horrible facts behind those slaves who worked there and made them rich erased too.

 

So Floyd violently resisted arrest and then died a few minutes later of an overdose and not the knee on his neck. That's moronic. You're drinking the cool-aide if you have convinced yourself that's what happened.

 

Just skimming back through the last pages but all of the stuff you brougth up was addressed both during the trial and during the leadup to the trial. Chauvin was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Byrd wasn't even charged.

Also since you brougth up a case that I am very familiar with the shooting of Ashli Babbit wasn't anything like the shooting of Justine Damond by Mohammed Noor other than LEO shot a woman. Justine Damond wasn't engaged in an illegal activity but was in the back alley behind her house after calling MPD. Noor shot blind just at the sound of someone knocking on the cruiser to get their attention and shot in front of his own partner putting the partner at risk (that was the basis of the 3rd Degree charge that he put his partner at risk) . Ashli Babbitt was breaking the law and was in process of breaching a security barrier and not in compliance. The LEO at the Capitol have a duty to protect the Capitol and were engaged in pitched battle with others with Ashli Babbit invading the Capitol. Justine Damond was callign MPD to investigate suspicious behavior in her back alley.

 

He died in the exact same way Tony Timpa died, exactly the same way Mario Gonzalez died. Sometimes when people who are strongly intoxicated are restrained prone on their stomach they die, especially larger, heavier people. It happens due to a combination of factors (the intoxication, their overall health, the weight used to restrain them, and the strain of their resistance on their body).

OJ Simpson was acquitted and Ruben Carter was convicted. I guess whatever the criminal justice system says is absolutely correct 100% of the time.

Both were shot while approaching a police officer unarmed and presenting no imminent threat of death or great bodily injury. There just aren't a lot of unarmed people shot while climbing through a window in a public building to compare to, so that is the closest factual scenario I could find.