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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Well we all know what a sociopath/psychopath he is. He's always been mentally disturbed. That's nothing new. It's how his twisted brain is wired. It wasn't a moment of insanity. It goes way back. Hell, he's just as crazy now. Dude still claims he won. LMAO
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    The truth for those that can't handle discourse.

    DD
     
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  3. deb4rockets

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    The threats are real against those coming forward, and it's disturbing. I hope the FBI is looking into these death threats.

    US Rep. Kinzinger reveals over a dozen threatening messages sent to Republican amid Jan. 6 hearings

    "We know where your family is, and we're going to get you you little (expletive)," another said.

    "Gonna get your wife. Gonna get your kids," one threat said.

    "We're going to get you -- coming to your house, son. Going to get you and Liz Cheney. Ha ha ha," another recording said.

    https://abc7chicago.com/adam-kinzinger-rep-threats-twitter/12023182/

    It's a sick, violent, and disturbing group that wants the truth suppressed.
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    The radical right and Christian nationalists showing their true colors….
     
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  5. deb4rockets

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    Yep. Been a lot of blood shed over religious extremists, which I always shake my head at. Holy wars make no sense. What God justifies slaughter of his creation? You add in the radical right and it's a dangerous bunch. Oh, and then there are the Trump mob of power mongers desperate to hide their part in the coup. They would probably do anything to keep some mouths shut to save their asses.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    That is PRECISELY why the founders wanted nothing to do with religion in our government.

    DD
     
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    But wait, the base is all about GOD and Country................there such hypocrites, just like their leader
     
  8. deb4rockets

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    Probably just the religious extremists they cater to. There are plenty of Democrats who believe in God but don't believe in pushing their religious beliefs on others, or discriminating against those who don't share their beliefs. There are also plenty of religious Democrats who believe that guns are nothing more than weapons to kill.
     
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    What Are We Learning from the January 6 Proceedings?
    The House Select Committee may yet succeed in demonstrating that Donald Trump is unfit for the presidency—but its highly politicized nature disserves the search for truth.

    https://www.city-journal.org/what-are-we-learning-from-the-january-6-proceedings

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    Have the proceedings of the House of Representatives’ Select Committee on January 6 altered our understanding of the Capitol riot? In a big-picture sense, no.

    This is not to belittle the committee’s mission. It is appropriate, perhaps even essential, to have a comprehensive congressional accounting of a violent attack on the seat of government, on the Congress itself. That is particularly the case where, as here, evidence exists of presidential culpability. The events culminating in the January 6, 2021, uprising fall into a different category from, for example, the Capitol’s wartime torching by British troops in 1814, or from such terrorist acts as the shooting and wounding of five congressmen on the House floor by Puerto Rican separatists in 1954, or the bombing of the Capitol by Weatherman antiwar radicals in 1971.

    To say that the committee proceedings have not changed the overarching picture is, instead, to make two points.

    First, that picture was already well developed. A stunned nation viewed the riot live on television and in streaming online images, just after then–president Donald J. Trump gave a shockingly incendiary speech. A week later, Trump was impeached by the House for the second time. While it may have seemed like Trump normalized impeachment (while taking a sledgehammer to every other presidential norm), the process remains historically extraordinary. As the nation watched, the Senate sidelined all other business to try Trump, even though he’d been out of office by then for nearly a month. A solid majority of senators (57–43) even voted to convict him, though this margin fell short of the two-thirds super-majority necessary to trigger disqualification from future office. That goes far in explaining why the January 6 committee is in business 18 months later, doing the work that a rushed, slipshod impeachment effort failed to do.

    Second, I use the word “proceedings” advisedly in describing the January 6 committee. The panel is not conducting hearings. In our system, hearings are adversarial, whether in congressional inquiries or in court. Even the most loathsome defendants are vested with due process rights to cross-examine witnesses, present whatever defense they have, and poke holes in the prosecution’s case. The January 6 committee, in stark contrast, is part inquisition and part theatrical production. The latter is embarrassingly manifest thanks to the panel’s highly unusual primetime opening session, a made-for-TV spectacle in which the committee retained a former top network executive to orchestrate a slick production by splicing carefully mined bits of deposition video into a tightly scripted narrative presentation.

    The committee is quick to point out that it is in the investigative stage. Its preferred parallel is to prosecutors—not proving a case at trial but presenting it to a grand jury. It is the phase at which the state has no duty to present the suspect’s side of the story because it is merely establishing that it has a triable case.

    But this is a tortured analogy. Real grand jury investigations proceed in secret. Constitutionally speaking, they are conceived as a protection of the suspect, requiring the prosecutors to show probable cause of crimes to the satisfaction of the community before making a formal public allegation—at which point our law arms the accused with full rights of counsel, confrontation of witnesses, subpoena power, presentation of a defense, and so on. The January 6 committee, to the contrary, is unabashedly designed to prejudice the suspect (Trump) by turning the jury pool (the nation) against him. Everything the committee reveals, no matter how compelling, must be discounted by that realization. Predictably, this has led to the hyperbole and missteps that a rigged process invites.
    more at the link
     
  10. dobro1229

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    The founders wanted separation of church and state either for the purpose of keeping it out or protecting religion because as you see now, this religious extremism in government if going to turn off future generations from attending church.

    In the Bible the #1 job that a Christian has is to bring more people to Christ. That can be done in many ways according to the church. So injecting this much religion into government and destroying separation of church and state will be going against the #1 duty you have as a Christian.

    If anyone here does believe in God in the Christian since it’s hard to not see the failures of Republicans as Christians because they are activity destroying the ability to bring new people to Christ. Not one flipping person who wasn’t a Christian yesterday will be a Christian tomorrow and that’s a fact.
     
  11. No Worries

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    Not true for all varieties of Christianity.
     
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    Well it is for the varieties of Christianity that are the ones trying to break down the wall between church & state. I grew up in a Baptist church then switched to non-denominational. My parents church shopped a bit too. My wife is Catholic (which I guess now makes me kinda Catholic). Spreading the word of God is pretty high on the list in pretty much every Church I've been to because what religion is not focused on spreading??

    You can't spread Religion in America this way. This isn't North Korea where you can just suddenly expect to indoctrinate every child at birth like they are I guess trying to do. You still have to sell your church and your faith, and I can't think of a more destructive method of selling Christianity in America.
     
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    this kangaroo court will never let a Trump supporter testify live. Everything is scripted beforehand.

     
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    Man no supporters of Trump testified?


    I'm going to be honest with you bro, that means Trump is extremely bad at finding people who support him to his most crucial executive branch positions. Probably should have done a better job at finding people who supported him than some radical communists.
     
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    What? Almost every single witness has been a Trump supporter.

    There have been close to zero Democrats or Never-Trump Republicans. Almost every single witness has been a Trump appointee and person from his staff and inner circle.

    It sounds like you're kidding yourself about these hearings.
     
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  18. larsv8

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    Can't blame the guy.

    He is in a cult, he needs help. Only family / loved ones have a chance to break him out of it.

    We are literally watching live how its possible for normal, reasonable, (presumably) good natured people to ascend into a place where they could easily cheer on atrocity against their own people. While we haven't quite reached the Fourth Reich, its hard to see where this insanity train can derail before getting there. Scary ****ing times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(psychology)
     
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  19. Commodore

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    The committee will not let anyone who was participated in Jan6 testify who disagrees with committee's universally held insurrection narrative.

    We will not hear anything adversarial between witnesses or members
     
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