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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. Astrosfan183

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    As was said after your bolded part, if the committee happened to bring enough evidence to the DOJ to get them to charge, whoever charged will have ample opportunity to present their side of what happened if they feel the picture being painted by the committee is wrong. They should be able to easily prove they did nothing wrong if in fact, they did do nothing wrong

    They could also do that now, I guarantee you if Meadows or Trump offered to testify under oath the committee would immediately allow it, even if it was under supervision of a lawyer.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    It just shows they really aren't playing 3D chess, and for as much flack as the Dems get (and deserve to get) we are dealing with some pretty stupid people who are more or less lucking into autocratic type of potential power over the most powerful country in the world.

    The other important point is that had the R's impeached Trump and banned him from running again, I do sincerely believe that the Jan 6th committee would have very little reason to dig into Republicans they way they are, and with the DOJ, there's a constitutional case that DOJ would likely convince themselves which is that presidential crimes were handled the way the framers intended. Therefore we maybe issue a report, and do not indict for crime in office.

    NOW the lack of prosecution or at least investigation is nearly impossible for the DOJ to avoid, and with that comes the likely investigation and prosecution of lackeys in Congress. The dynamic is just so much more intense because of the way things unfolded. At the very least the 1/6 Committee would be an afterthought in the media because the jury had already convicted, and it was a done deal so to speak.
     
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    Even at the second impeachment, congress didn't have the evidence that they do now.
     
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    No comment about the Soviet show trials? I put a lot of work into that.
     
  5. Commodore

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    why isn't the committee calling first-hand witnesses to testify to Hutchinson's second-hand account?
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    Ok so are you going to actually answer the question?

    I have no issue with having an opinion I just want to know what that opinion is?

    I will ask again do you think what Republicans are doing and have done is just a little worse than Democrats being a p***y?
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    They did talk to capitol police early on. Surely if any police were involved, they should be prosecuted, but the committee has been very focused and are after bigger fish. That focus has served them well.
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    The committee did call them and they have refused.

    You really don't have a clue, do you?
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Because the only part of her testimony that was second hand isn't central.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    meaning Trump
     
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  11. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Obviously the GOP is worse. But the Democrats aren't much better with very little response outside of meetings, hearings, crying, hugs, etc. If you can't check basic ideologic differences, what good are you as an opposing party, or people in general?
     
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    How was the Jan 6 riot and the Uvalde school shooting comparable?

    Your faux moderate crocodiles tears are pretty lacking.... could use some random blog post to illustrate your point.... Maybe your side should have participated in the hearing instead of stonewalling it. Instead they choose the cowardly act of throwing barbs from a distance.

    And to the bolded.... you are of course wrong.

    Inside the Capitol Cops’ Jan. 6 Blame Game
    New documents and whistleblower claims describe critical intelligence failures ahead of the insurrection
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    Not a lot of folks on your side are willingly to testify under oath.
     
  14. Astrodome

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    Enough people have claimed that he did for it to be at least a conversation during this hearing.

    https://mynbc15.com/amp/news/nation...-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald

    https://www.newsweek.com/house-repu...nuary-6-riot-kevin-mccarthy-jim-banks-1714401
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    So you are all in on the Democrats not being much better and you equate leading a coup and getting rid of Roe on the same level as "checking basic ideologic differences" whatever that means.

    What other response should they have?

    And how do you get all democrats on board I mean even you think they are on the same level as Republicans just because?

    This is why we are ****ed as a country many people think "Democrats" are the same as the party who led a coup and reversed Roe and refused to vote on the other party's SC candidate.

    I mean all of that is the same as not checking basic ideological differences, I mean I guess those differences are not readily seen by anybody that can fun with basic logic level.

    What exactly is checking basic ideological differences, what would you do differently?
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Sure and if there is a criminal trial he can try and make that defense under oath or even of he were to testify under oath for the committee. Or Meadows could come and testify to that, or anyone else.
     
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  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. That's the biggest fish, but Eastman, Meadows, Giuliani, Clarke, possibly various congressional members as well.
     
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    that's fine, but that's pretty much the dictionary definition of a fishing expedition. :D

    JuanV's claim, in contrast, was "The House is trying to paint a complete picture of what happened." which kind of strains credulity
     
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    The GOP's MO is to try and not participate in anything that requires them to testify under oath but to just lob "whatabout-isms" and "deflections" and outright lies from afar using their very powerful media apparatus.

    Look at how they treated the Trump impeachment trials.... same thing.
     
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  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Not fishing. They aren't throwing out bait and hoping to find something that sticks. They are targeted and the complete picture includes all of the pre-planning and behind the scenes occurances which would include the bigger fish.
     
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