Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

I missed the show, did we win?

also did they get to this part last night? haven't seen anything about it in the media coverage today.

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/9555...ims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri

 

We haven't gotten there yet, but it certainly wasn't because President Trump was ordering them to the scene; VP Pence was!

 

They stop counts because people need to sleep.

All of these things have been addressed. Numerous times. These election results have been certified by Republicans who work at these places. It's the people who can't accept the results who are trying to create doubts. "My candidate lost - how is that possible? There must have been fraud"

You've been fed this lie about voter fraud for so many years that you just assume the Democrats do it and Republicans should always win.

 

It's too bad you think what happened isn't a big deal.

 

there's a difference between the investigation itself, and the subsequent Soviet-like presentation of that investigation's findings, no? I think there's at least a grain of truth to the comparison as regards the show

 

The election was clearly rigged and stolen. These people that you refer to are unconscionably deceitful and by all appearances, irredeemably corrupt. They are not trustworthy and neither is "the system". Case closed.

It does not matter who says it. What happened during the election was obvious to anyone with an independently functioning brain who was paying attention this series of events. It is sad that you are apparently incapable of understanding this yourself.

 

That's literally election fraud claim #1 from Trump shortly after election night. I have a close relative that said almost the exact same thing. She and a mass number of Republicans clearly were and are still influenced by others pushing this and other fraud claims although she maintains it's from her own thinking.

This particular one has been explained but that's a "nothing burger" to her. She rejected all explanations (all of them are simply leftish sources and thus automatically rejected), will continue to cling to election fraud conspiracy theory, and probably worst of all for her and folks like her, lie to herself that it's their own mind believing in these things and not because others are pushing these beliefs into their heads.

Whatever you and others want to believe, the first hearing shows that Trump and his advisers knew he lost the election.

 

How many audits will make you feel comfortable...since, you know, you're coming to these conclusions on your own? Even states that weren't contested did unnecessary audits. There's no there there. There wasn't in November 2020. There wasn't in 2021 when these audits were performed over and over and found absolutely nothing (well the AZ one actually found that the gap was slightly larger). There is no new information in 2022. There was no steal. Everything has been presented and checked and double checked. What the f*** else does a individual thinker such as yourself need to know?

You say your focus was from before trump said anything. So that was in 2015. He was decrying fraud from the primaries in 2016 and all the way through now. You can't honestly say, as a person who liberally uses the word "liberal" as if it has some negative connotation, that you're beliefs haven't been badly colored by the thousands of statements from trump and his moron followers.

 

Can you share a cartoon to help me understand this?

 

We sure as hell didn't see him stop it immediately!!!

 

I'm still shown pictures of the Cleveland Cavaliers Championship parade and asked, "did Biden ever have this many people at his rallies?" I say that is not a trump rally. "No", they say, "that is a protest after the stolen election."

 

Wow! I saw a hell of a lot more violence than you cherry coat. If they blow off an attempted coup they sure as hell wouldn't be doing their job. Trump should be imprisoned!

 

Biden's supporters didn't gather in masses maskless during the height of a pandemic because they cared more about stopping the spread than Trump's people did. They showed up when it counted though, and voted Trumpty Dumpty off his wall.

 

I got u

 

Right on cue.... the p*ssies are defending Jan 6 and calling it a nothingburger.

 

Do you now feel appropriately stupid for doubting that Biden won the election?

 

Soviet-style presentation? In the Soviet Union they don't present a case, they just execute you and make up a story in Pravda.

Do I think what the dems are doing is Machiavellian? Absolutely. But I also think they don't have a choice. There's so much noise out there that you have to make it a show to get people to pay attention. But Soviet style? Not at all.

The Dems have to be smart enough to know that the right is going to call this a kangaroo investigation and show trial no matter what they do. So the best course of action is to make sure everyone in the country is made aware of the full picture of what happened, not buried in a 200 page report that gets minimalized before it's fully released. The Dems learned a lot about why the Mueller report failed to change public opinion when it should have done so.

 

Damn, Soviet style?

**** that sounds bad. What does that mean though?

 

that's a good point, but the Soviets were well known for "show trials" that resemble the dog-and-pony show here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_trials

I don't think what Dems are doing will move the needle much on anything