1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Brandon Lloyd's on the trade block: yay or nay?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by vinsensual, Oct 13, 2011.

?

Brandon Lloyd?

  1. Eh might as well.

    99 vote(s)
    83.9%
  2. No more bronco inbreeding.

    19 vote(s)
    16.1%
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,571
    Wait ...wait wait...are you saying Schaub has pocket presence?

    DD
     
  2. The Real Shady

    The Real Shady Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    17,170
    Likes Received:
    3,967
    Way more than Carr ever did.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,571
    Well yeah, that is true....lol.

    DD
     
  4. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    74,005
    Likes Received:
    20,790
    I think you're going too far with this, DaDa.

    You don't throw for 4,000 yards in the NFL without pocket presence. He doesn't have escapability when it breaks down..but he's not without pocket presence. Their OL is good...it's not so good that it allows for a QB without pocket presence to throw for 4,000 yards, though.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,571
    Yeah, I conceded that....

    DD
     
  6. YaosDirtyStache

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2009
    Messages:
    3,433
    Likes Received:
    656
    DD, name 5 quarterbacks not named Brees Manning Rivers Brady or Rodgers you would rather have chucking the ball than Schaub?

    On no world does he "choke", especially last game. Clearly a problem between Jacoby and his awful job at creating space and finishing routes. We have no "high quality athletes" on this team on offense minus AJ.

    OD is no where near the Finley or Pettigrews of the world. MS cant just chuck it to his TE every time. Our receivers outside of AJ are pretty awful at just about everything...Matt aint the problem. You are the problem, and by that I mean you are an ungrateful fan who believes this team could be better lead by anyone not named Matt Schaub.
     
  7. greenhippos

    greenhippos Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    49
    I could only name Roethlisberger
     
  8. YaosDirtyStache

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2009
    Messages:
    3,433
    Likes Received:
    656
    Same here, wouldnt be surprised to see DD name Colt, Tebow and Newton..

    His hard on for overhyped white players and flash in the pan rookies will definitely surface if he answers my question.
     
  9. The Real Shady

    The Real Shady Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    17,170
    Likes Received:
    3,967
    I would take Newton over Schaub just because of his youth and potential. But if I had to win this one season only I would go with Schaub.
     
  10. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,670
    Likes Received:
    14,829
    Funny how they actually decided to invest higher draft picks in the line and develop a set scheme as well.

    In the end, most QB's have little success when under constant pressure. And the younger they are, the less likely they will develop into anything useful.
     
  11. htownrox1

    htownrox1 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Messages:
    7,451
    Likes Received:
    4,776
    Lets get this thread back on track!! Any rumor updates?!
     
  12. mrm32

    mrm32 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    10,457
    Likes Received:
    2,327
    I won't be bummed out if he doesn't end up here but please don't let him end up in Tennessee!
     
  13. Maximus

    Maximus Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2011
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    17
    I would take a lot of QB's over Schaub
     
  14. thejav

    thejav Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    3,022
    Likes Received:
    355
    Who that could be availble would u take to replace schaub?
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Schaub handles the pressure well, unlike Carr.

    http://houston.sbnation.com/houston-texans/2011/5/12/2167561/matt-schaub-blitz-stats-2010-nfl

    "Either way, Schaub puts up some pretty solid numbers against the blitz as well. Despite getting blitzed on nearly 40% of his dropbacks, Schaub completed 61.9% of his passes against the blitz, which is good for fifth in the NFL. The touchdown to interception ratio is a much less impressive 8:5, however. Make of that data what you will. Much like the deep ball data, I believe fans tend to think that Schaub is much worse under pressure than he actually is. He probably isn't as good as the pass completion percentage makes him out to be, but there are much worse options out there."

    So he throws a good deep ball and he throws well when getting blitzed. I'm fine with Schaub as our QB. Our problems are elsewhere.
     
  16. Fulgore

    Fulgore Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    16,312
    Likes Received:
    15,013
    Stafford? Newton (in 2 yrs). But you're right Schaub is decent. He's not elite. Fans would appreciate him alot more if Leinart got out there. Now he sucks.
     
  17. djohn2o12

    djohn2o12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    35
    You are clearly a corporate ********ing homer who believes everything "Daddy" tells you. Schaub is a problem, his constant underthrows and overthrows of his recievers, when he gets pressured he doesn't even attempt to make a play, he just throws it at the feet of the nearest lineman. Scared to take a hit, cant step up in the moment. (Ravens game last year, Cardinals game year before, both GW pick sixes btw, Raiders game) He simply is not clutch. And that last game was not all on Jacoby. Jacoby wasn't the one who kept getting his passes deflected over and over again.
     
  18. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,752
    Likes Received:
    39,420
    In before the rookiefication
     
  19. The Real Shady

    The Real Shady Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    17,170
    Likes Received:
    3,967
    Why don't you give credit to his game's last year when he was clutch? KC and the Jets?
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    I wonder if this post is racially motivated.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now