Just so everyone knows, Beal's no-trade clause will still be a thing in Phoenix. It still exists. So when the Suns are desperate to dump this guy in a couple years, they will have to pay heavily to do so.
The thing that's wrong with that scenario is PHX already had zero assets before the Beal trade happened. They already jumped in the hole.
Why will they be desperate to dump Beal in 2 yrs? They are all in on KD for the next 4 yrs. Thanks to this trade they were able to reroll Chris Paul who has been choking and playing horribly in the playoffs for a younger dude. Nobody wanted Chris Paul anymore they were thinking of waiving him and just eating his deal just to get rid of him. So now instead of just Landry Shamet the Suns managed to add Beal, Isiah Todd snd Jordan Goodwin. The contracts don't matter, PHX was already capped out anyway.
I assumed CP3 was out the door anyway, so I am not comparing CP3 to Beal. Beal is of course better now. Suns got better, somewhat. Why would they be desperate to dump Beal? Well, why do any of these superteams fail? It often doesn't really work. It's not too hard to conjure a scenario where KD and Beal, who have had serious injury problems the last few years, keep having such problems. KD isn't getting younger and has a million miles on his legs. So how many years of Booker + scrubs losing in the playoffs would Booker be cool with before he asks out? 1? 2? 3? And then if Booker is out, KD would want out too (if he's still playing by then). And now you're left with Beal, who would be worthless on a bad team (as he was in Washington; thus the return on this trade). All the while, of course, the Suns would have absolutely no assets to acquire good young players or vets. So you better hope you get a really good return when Booker asks to be traded to the Lakers or whatever. Because your team will have nothing. I don't think that's too unrealistic. Injury prone players will be injury prone. Superstars get tired of coming up short and ask for trades. These things happen. They've both already happened with KD himself!
Cp3 had 2yrs on his deal and nobody wanted him. If they just cut him then that's 2 yrs where they had just Landry Shamet right? So just getting Beal saved 2 yrs of the KD run at the very minimum. Even if worst case Beal didn't pan out, having him still better than Cp3's contract without Cp3. The issues you mentioned are sunk costs and still would have existed whether they got Beal or not. KD still is old and Booker can still opt out if they don't win etc Not sure why you are putting that on the Beal trade like somehow Beal is the reason the Suns have no assets and vets. All those things you mentioned are due to KD trade not Beal trade. Again, all those issues are there whether or not Beal is on the team. Beal trade is straight up an upgrade and good move for the Suns. It's like they're in debt for 1M and they stole 200k from someone. Yeah it doesn't pay off the entire debt but that's still 200k. In the same way, PHX still stole Beal from the Wizards for Cp3's contract and Landry Shamet. I hope you also understood Cp3's contract expiring doesn't do anything from them as they are already capped out with 3 max contracts even before Beal trade. Suns actually replenished their assets with this trade, they upgraded from just Shamet to Beal and 2 random rookies. It's a 3 for one. I don't know why you hate Beal so much but I guarantee Booker would rather play with Beal than Landry Shamet. Tbh this is massive highway robbery by PHX and only possible due to collusion and Beal having a no trade clause and bring willing to stab his OG franchise in the back.
CP3 contract is non-guaranteed in the last year. It was in reality a one year deal - and only half guaranteed for the one year. Shamet is non-guaranteed and then a club option. Their two deals weren't great but they're not as bad as you're presenting them to be. Obviously I don't know the secret internal thoughs of NBA GMs, but those are both tradeable contracts. I don't believe the option was either Beal or them; they could have done several other moves. I'm not blaming Beal for anything. I'm saying that 1) this locks them up in ways where the new, much more punitive cap will put them in untenable situations even if everything works out perfectly (which, it won't). I'm also saying that 2) it's not a good on-court fit. Beal gives them nothing they didn't already have, brings with him the worst contract in the league, and doesn't raise their ceiling. I also don't believe for a second that the obscenely large luxury tax penalties that the owner will pay as a result of this will never have an impact on any of their moves. But hey, I could be wrong. I've already heard from people smarter than myself that this is a good trade for Phoenix. I just disagree.
So Cp3 contract is not guaranteed next year so that's least this year they wasted a season of KD right? If the original objective is not frustrate Booker into leaving then that's not a good sign. What other moves you think could result into a better deal than Beal using just Cp3 contract and Landry Shamet? Maybe you could give examples cuz tbh I don't see any. PHX can get bad contracts and picks but neither of those helps the team or makes Booker think about staying.IIRC Eric Gordon also had an u guaranteed year for similar value to CP3 and all Rockets got was 10 spots up on an existing draft obligation. The other alternative was 4 2nd rounders lol. I know you don't like Beal but surely he is worth more than that right? Your point about the new cap doesn't matter cuz they were over the cap anyway even without the Beal trade. Owner just has to pay more now that's like the only change. Your concerns are all valid, I also doubt this whole PHX superteam will work out due to fit etc. But the Beal move by itself is a great move and highway robbery by PHX cuz they got Beal for free. There's no way just Cp3 deal and Shamet would have gotten any deal that's better than this imo.
Suns interested in Westbrook? The new owner will have a tough learning curve. Can't throw money at the problem.
“The difference between this trio and the Nets trio is Booker is a good passer, Beal and Durant are good passers…Harden is an all time passer”
This team is gonna be a massive disappointment. If healthy they are gonna win a fair amount of regular season games by virtue of top end talent, but this team fits together like absolute dog s**t and has no depth whatsoever.
Harden sacrificed scoring at the Nets Will Beal be expected to do that? Book and Durant getting 40 a piece Beal a 20 and 10 guy? Ayton should be a 20 and 10 guy The rest whatever....... Basically they should expect 100-120 every night from their big 4 Everything else is just extra Rocket River
My first thought was "the next superteam to bust and break up after 1.5 years tops". Not everyone in a lineup can be a star. At least, not the kind of star who takes 15-20 shots a game. Ayton is already complaining because he's "only" getting 13. That Phoenix team is sorely missing the Aaron Gordon, KCP, Bruce Brown kind of players who play unselfishly and glue the roster together.
They basically gave up nothing to get Beal.. They still have Ayton to trade if they want to. or they could just keep him... They aren't in any worse position going into Next season than they wouldve been otherwise.
The new CBA is quite punishing to teams that go 17 million dollars over the cap. You lose the MLE, and you can't get buyout players (along with other restrictions). The combination of Durant, Beal, Booker and Ayton alone gets them into the luxury tax range. So they have virtually no cap room to fill out their roster. The types of roll players that they need have to take the minimum. So they either have to find diamonds in the g league or a bunch of veterans have to take the minimum. So while the trade price for Beal was low, they're now in cap hell and basically have to trade Ayton to gain any cap flexibility.
