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Brad Miller signs with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jaingfang, Jul 17, 2010.

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Brad Miller the next Brent Barry

  1. yes-he will run out of gas like Brent

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  2. no-he will be a solid contributor & play well

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  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Do you have ANY proof at all to justify your conspiracy theories or are you just talking out of your ass? I have a feeling that it is the latter and I am sure most members will agree with me.
     
  2. HorryForThree

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    Question: is anyone else concerned that perhaps the Rockets signed Miller for the large contract as a result of concerns over Yao's health/rehab?
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    no.

    If they had those kinds of concerns they would have just drafted a Center.

    Millers contract is larger because of the market and his partially guaranteed last year.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes. But I think the concern is more about the risk of Yao re-injuring himself (history would suggest that there is a certain likelihood for that to happen).
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    So we paid the MLE for Miller and not Gortat......at least we know their $$$ values now....

    DD
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    "We" could not have paid the MLE for Gortat had "we" wanted to do it. Orlando matched the Mavs' MLE offer, they would have matched "our" MLE offer, too.

    Very Truly Ous,

    We
     
  7. HillBoy

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    I have always maintained that when Rudy T was shown the door, the second person out that door behind him should have been Carroll Dawson because he was equally responsible for the situation the Rockets found themselves mired. But under Les, that didn't happen for too many years and they (Rockets) are still paying the price for Les' mistake. Basically, LES was MIA as his team and organization started drifting into mediocrity.

    Seriously? Go back and read some of the posts here about JVG and how boring it was and how HE was the reason for the bad player moves and the losses and NOT the front office. Les brings in JVG and fails to understand that this team (or completely ignores the fact) which had been built around SF3 & RudyBall, had to be completely retooled to acommodate JVG's basketball philosophy. Well, that didn't happen - they tried to make do with marginal players. They weren't winning, they were playing slow-mo basketball, fans everywhere were griping so Les made the change to Adelman who promised a more "up tempo" style of basketball. I believe the word Les used here was "exciting".

     
  8. DaDakota

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    The point was that "We" established a price for Gortat, and clearly Miller was worth more money to "us".

    :)

    DD
     
  9. HillBoy

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    Well it takes an ass to know one and I'm sure most members would agree with me as well. If you'd bothered to look back over my posts from previous years, you'd have realized that it has been my position to hold Les primarily responsible for the team's drift into mediocrity over the years more so than the head coach. To (continue) to blame the head coach for the institutional failings of the organization is to do nothing more than scapegoat them which has been my position for nearly 10 years now. Now do you have something intelligent to discuss or are you just another lurker here?
     
  10. The_Yoyo

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    the rockets didnt give Miller the full MLE nor did the Rockets offer Gortat the full MLE the way the mavericks did, had the Rockets did offer the MLE he would have signed the sheet right away like he did with Dallas. Dallas established Gortat's price not the Rockets

    the magic would have matched anyway, certainly would have if he accepted the Rockets offer of around 4 million.


    I wouldn't go as far to say that because miller was offered more than gortat he is more valuable to the Rockets. The price for Miller was probably determined by some other team on the market and his agent probably said with the money being equal Brad would sign with Houston. the push for miller was really all Adelman's desire and if left to Morey and his staff they probably would have pursued someone else depending who was availabe via FA or a trade. Morey understands that every once in a while a move like this must be made to appease the coach or the fans/owner (francis signing). the good thing is that Miller is a serviceable backup to Yao and does provide depth and value to the team (unlike the francis signing)
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    they tried to make due with marginal players because that's all that was available to work with. It's not a coincidence that as the rockets became "more exciting" is also the time that the rockets aquired younger and more athletic talent via the draft.
     
  12. chenjy9

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    Clearly you have not seen enough of Miller. Just because Miller plays from the high post and is not an interior banger on offense does NOT make him a 4 or soft. Miller may not bang, but he is one tough cookie. He is a 5 that plays from the high post because he has range and is a great passer. This fits our team and makes him much more versatile than Dampier, who will only clog up the game and affect team morale when he gives up and whines. With Miller planted in the high block, our offense has an unclogged paint to roam and slash. Also, with Miller's range, opposing bigs have no choice but to be drawn out to prevent Miller from nailing the open three. His range also makes him a great PnR player as he is a legit 7 footer and substantially more massive than Scola or Hill.

    Rockets were competitive without Yao for the bigger half of the series and relied on Ron Artest as our first option. This year, we have a team that has gelled over the course of last year as well as the return of Yao and the addition of a solid PF rookie, an entire offseason for Jordan Hill, a full season for Martin and Brooks to continue gelling, and finally a serviceable center since Mutombo. I say we are plenty competitive with the likes of LA.
     
  13. SwoLy-D

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    WTF?!?!? I barely heard about this this morning...

    I thought we had already used up our white player allotted spots... :(

    Shane Battier took up .5, no? Yao... close.
    Sí. :eek:
     
  14. jscmedia

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    To imagine in any way, shape or form that Eric Dampier would be a better pickup then Miller is wrong on so many levels. The fans of Dallas are doing a two step over his leaving.

    I can only imagine the cascading boos that would fill Toyota after watching Mr Dampier impersonate an NBA center here after a few months.

    Brad Miller is what he is, and so he got a little extra cash. He fits what is wanted and needed at this time. I also feel strongly that Yao is going to surpirse many with his play, even at reduced minutes. He is still a brut.

    I am very ready to get this on. This sounds like a classic Rockets team from over here.

    We know them, We Love them, we bleed the Red.
     
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  15. chenjy9

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    Again, do you have any proof at all for any of this or are you just talking out of your ass? Just because it is a position that you maintained does not make it any more accurate. Everything points to Les being a great owner. He has always shown to be willing to spend if it may push us over the edge and while some of his moves may have been misguided, the intentions were clear. Making a championship team and signing the right people and coaches has always been a gamble. Just take a look at Dallas and the former Cleveland teams. I ask you once again, do you have any proof that Les is primarily responsible for making this team bad and make our coaches the scapegoat instead?
     
  16. coachbadlee

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    Now i see why people ignore you. :rolleyes:
     
  17. napalm06

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    What are your thoughts on getting Rudy Fernandez?
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Some of you missed my point.

    I was only commenting on the dollar figures we put on Gortat and Miller.

    DM had a value on Gortat of $3 million and clearly thinks Miller is worth most of the MLE at $5 million.

    That is all I was saying.

    We got the better player.

    DD
     
  19. thegary

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  20. SwoLy-D

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    :p Don't get mad... get GLAD!

    Don't take this crap so seriously, man... it's only a comment on a forum... :p

    Don't need him. Don't want him. :eek:

    *He's Spanish.
    "Adiós, muchacho!"
     

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