Munco, I am tired of making these pointless arguments with you. Indiana is playing better after they get rid of Brad Miller. Please reach the conclusion using your own logic. My all star lineup for the West conference is: I am Sam Peja KG Duncan Yao (Shaq) Yao gets the nod because Shaq missed about 1/3 of the games and Yao has been much more consistent recently and also showed pure dominance in 3-4 games during the stretch. The center position is weak and I don't see anyone better than Yao (besides Shaq).
Who was the reason for the King stellar start last season without Webber? It must be another guy that should be an allstar starter over Yao...
My point was that I find it crazy that people think it's absurd to pick Brad Miller over Yao. The "different opinion" argument is what I've been posting. I can see reasons for Miller/Shaq/Yao but many of the posters think anyone but Yao at Center is crazy. I basically said that in an earlier post. No disagreement. I basically said that in an earlier post. No disagreement. he was listed at center for the All-Star game balloting. That's why I argued for him. I think Yao could be the most dominant player since Shaq. I would not trade him for Miller. I disagree with this and responded in an earlier post in this thread. True. But people argue who has an all-star because it is recognizes the best players in the league. It's the reason that people can't so angry at Sam Cassell never making the all-star game or Vince Carter always being the top vote-getter. My position is the same. I'd pick Miller over Yao at Center, but I can see an argument for either of those guys and Shaq too.
It's funny over at ESPN.com Marc Stein voted off Iversion and McGrady in favor of Baron Davis and Michael Redd. That has got to be the most bias and stupid vote I seen in a long time. Since how did Iversion and McGrady not any better than either of these players. If Iversion got voted out cuz he's been injured then surely O'neal should not get the nod over Yao. But since he voted O'neal over Yao, that just show how bias he is.
Indiana also has Rick Carlisle coaching. The team is playing amazing as a team. I'm not sure what you're arguing. I'm arguing that it's not crazy to pick Brad Miller over yao. If you do think it's crazy than we have an argument.
Webber missed 15 games over the entire year last season. He's already missed 44 games this year. Big difference Bobliu
Munco, I do not think considering Miller over Yao is crazy. I just think it is wrong. As I listed the reasons I think it is wrong you agreed on 5 of them. So in your heard you admitted that Yao deserves this popularity contest more than Miller. You just do not want to admit that you were wrong. It is OK to admit that it is wrong that Miller deserves more than Yao tb the starter of the allstar games. On these board, I was the first to point out that Yao was not a lock to the allstar game when Miller was averging 17points and 11 rebounds. But since then his points dropped to 14 and rebounds dropped to 10 while Yao's point/rebounds increased from 15/8 to 16/9. One other thing you never commented is that the way Yao alters the opponents' games. You never see AI explode to 40 points on the Rox because Yao took away his driving lane. Rox opponents often settle for jumpers because of Yao. You did not are not and never will see Miller have that kind of impact. Seven feet six inches is better than 7 feet. No matter how hard Miller plays he was, is, and will be a lesser center than Yao.
Yao got voted to start in the all-star game. What's your point of arguing whether he deserved it or not? Whoever gets voted in deserves to start! Remember that the all-star starters are determined by popularity, and Yao is voted in to start. On the other hand, arguing about who deserves to be the reserve player is fine becasue that is usually based on performance. But Yao is not in contention for the reserve spot! If you want to argue that Brad Miller is a better player than Yao, that's fine, but don't ever mention the words "all-star" in your argument because that is pointless when Yao is already voted in by fans!
So Indiana is a better team this year because of Rick Carlisle, who was kicked out of Detroit in the off season? Great. If Rick's coaching can overcome the loss of an All-star starting center and gets the team better, I am willing to pay Rick 10 million a year to coach the Yao-less Rockets (deal Yao to Minnesota for Candy man so we can get better under Rick) and will be serious to see how much better the Rockets can be under a coaching genius. Or why not trade Yao to the Kings for Miller and also bring in Rick so they can work double wonders? I guess the Rockes will win champs with such great moves.
yeah, the all-star game is a popularity contest. vince carter, yao very popular. brad miller not popular. if i voted on who my favorite players were i'd have yao #1.
For the millionth time... I'm arguing that it's not crazy to pick Miller over Yao for the all-star game. That is my argument. I don't think I'm wrong. If I believe I'm wrong, I'll admit it too. Unlike most of the people posting on this board, I'm willing to admit facts that go against my argument when valid. I think there are good cases to be made for Miller/Yao/Shaq. That's the reason I even started replying to this thread. In regards to me changin my stance. No one has convinced me that picking Miller over Yao is a crazy choice. In fact, I don't even think anyone brought up a point that I didn't consider before I posted on this topic. Lastly, just because I agree with some points someone makes does not mean I agree with their main argument.
For the millionth time... I'm arguing that it's not crazy to pick Miller over Yao for the all-star game. That is my argument.
You've taken one point and blown it out of proportion. Rick Carlisle got fired because the Pistons had their sites on Larry Brown, who is considered by many to be the best coach in the NBA. My point is that Indiana is a lot better with Coach Carlisle's system, but I'm sure they'd be even better if they still had Brad Miller.
i'm not trying to be a troll. My point: Picking Miller or Shaq over Yao for the All-Star game is not crazy. That's all. I don't think it's a big deal, but I guess some people do. Thanks.
Brad Miller deserves to be in the Allstar game...IF HE WERE STILL IN THE EAST!!! Now that he's in the west, there are simply too many power forwards better than him. And there is no way he deserves it over Yao and Shaq.
Which is the reason why all of our oppponents try to beat Yao down the court. just as the Kings did. I believe they scored like 30 of their points on fast breaks. Why? Because Yao wasnt there to contest the easy layups they got. Its because they probably dont watch all of the Rockets games like we do. Yao is an important part of our offense & defense. If the Yao goes down with an injury( out for the season), you can kiss the playoffs GOODBYE. However, if Brad Miller goes down theres another guy on the team that can pick up the slack.
I really can't make much of a case for one of these players over the other this season so I can't see being outraged that some people felt Miller deserved more recognition than he was receiving from the voters. I think Ming has far more potential than Miller in the long run, but up to this point, both players are pretty damn comparable.
