tejada plays everyday lidge comes in with a 1+ run lead every other day and is required to only get 3 outs...closers are replaceable if you're willing to pay. ask the mets
what happened in the world series? couldve used tejada more than lidge,lane and everett. the failed in the first round in the 90s cuz nobody could hit! dont you remember? you had randy johnson, lima, hampton, etc....
Umm, our losing in the playoffs was because of our opponents outpitching us. I believe Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine had a little something to do with our hitting problems.
thats the greatest rotation of all time. back to back to back no hitters with the lineup the astros have right now. every world series team has had a great lineup. YOU CAN GIVE UP A CLOSER FOR A FURTURE HALL OF FAMER! I can understand if you were trading oswalt or something. but its brad lidge and 2 bums for tejada! thats a freakin bargain! HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? its like trading for KG w/o having to give up tmac or yao....astros couldve used tejada. it almost went through
brad lidge, jason lane, and adam everett for miguel tejada (FUTRE HALL OF FAMER).... equals caron butler, lamar odom, and brian grant for shaq (FUTURE HALL OF FAMER) lakers didnt get the full value for shaq baltimore wouldnt have gotten full vaule for tejada
i'd easily trade lidge straight up for tejada but you're reaching on how good he is. shaq is one of the greatest players in nba history and tejada is no hall of famer at this point.
ok my bad. i shouldve said potential hall of famer if he keeps up the numbers he's been putting up 30hr 100rbi seasons he will be a hall of famer...he'll easily hit 400+ homeruns if he can stay healthy...the guys always been healthy he's played all 162 games 5 straight seasons. almost all the games in 7 straight seasons
A Tejada trade carried two risks: one, he could have invoked his right to demand a trade at the end of the season. Two, his name has come up in steroid conversations. Also, you're talking about needing to replace two positions (OF and closer). And closers aren't as easy to replace as MetsFan might suggest - look at the scrubs they've trotted out in the 9th inning the last few years.
thats true...mets have trotted out a lot of bums since '01 but closers are easy to replace. theres always a closer on the block. st louis got one. red sox, braves, etc
Scott is looking like he could become a really good pinch hitter. I think he might get one more shot at being an everyday major leaguer. Pence probably is not years away. He'll most likely get called up in September. If Scott hasn't got a position in majors by then, his everyday chances with Astros are likely done as those chances will go with the younger guy. While closer can be a hard spot for some teams to fill, the Astros have 2 guys who I would say are more ready to be a closer than half the current closers in the league. If Lidge could make the jump to starter, he would potentially be worth more than Tejada depending on the drop off due to more work. As it is now, a package of Everett, Lane, and Lidge is viewed by at least two teams (the Orioles and Astros) as worth less than Tejada if one believes the Astros offered it to the Orioles.
Mmmmmhhh..how are you sure that Brad Lidge is NOT roided up? I wonder how good his slider will be if the roids wear off (assuming he is on it). Mmmmmhhhhh...
well orioles agreed to the trade after tejada pulled back his demands on being traded. the trade was 99% complete
I was under the impression that it was the best deal offered and would only have happened with the trade demand.
old article from foxsports Either Miguel Tejada had a genuine change of heart about the Orioles, or he flat-out blinked. The National League champion Astros were the team closest to landing Tejada, FOXSports.com has learned, offering closer Brad Lidge, shortstop Adam Everett and either outfielder Jason Lane or Willy Taveras. The Phillies also wanted Tejada, intending to move him from shortstop to third base. The Tigers, too, were in the mix, representing little of an improvement, if any, over the Orioles — the team Tejada was trying to flee. Miguel Tejada chose the familiar over the unfamiliar with his decision to stay in Baltimore. Perhaps Tejada sensed that he wasn't going to land with the Red Sox, seemingly his first choice, or the Cubs, possibly his second. Perhaps, lacking no-trade protection, he wanted to regain a measure of control, and the only way to do that was by saying he would remain with the Orioles. Well, that's no longer a sure thing. The Orioles aren't looking to trade Tejada, but they're also in no position to dismiss interest in a player who remains at least somewhat disgruntled. The Astros' proposal intrigued them, and who's to say the Orioles won't revisit those discussions and others? Everett, a gifted defender, would have been another Mark Belanger at short. Lane could have helped replace Tejada's offense, or Taveras would have filled the Orioles' void in center field, a position the team addressed Monday by acquiring the Cubs' Corey Patterson. Lidge, one of the game's top closers, was the central figure from the Orioles' perspective, either as the replacement for departed free agent B.J. Ryan — or as a trade chip who could have helped the club address its biggest need, starting pitching. Sources with knowledge of the negotiations say the Orioles and Astros could have agreed on the players in the deal with little difficulty. The Astros were concerned that Tejada would invoke his right to demand a trade at the end of next season as a player dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. They likely would have asked Tejada to waive that right, a potential sticking point. The deal also would have required the approval of Orioles owner Peter Angelos, a demanding negotiator. Astros owner Drayton McLane, however, evidently was prepared to absorb most or all of the $48 million remaining over the final four years of Tejada's contract while parting with three low-cost players who played significant roles in the Astros' World Series run. Barring further moves, the Astros' payroll might have soared past $100 million, assuming that right-hander Roger Clemens returned to the club. Given Tejada's desire to play for a winner, he likely would have been satisfied by a trade to Houston — Clemens, Roy Oswalt and Andy Pettitte are just slightly more accomplished than the Orioles' Rodrigo Lopez, Daniel Cabrera and Erik Bedard. But Tejada didn't necessarily know he was going to the Astros. Perhaps he grew anxious when the Orioles' talks with the Red Sox and Cubs stalled, creating openings for other suitors. One possibility clearly disturbed him: Through his agents, Tejada signaled to the Phillies that he would have played third base for only one season, then exercised his right to demand a trade. For that, the Phillies would have parted with right fielder Bobby Abreu? Didn't make sense. In the end, Tejada chose the familiar over the unfamiliar, even though the familiar is a franchise that has had eight straight losing seasons — including six straight before he signed his six-year, $72 million contract with the Orioles after the 2003 season. Tejada should have known what he was getting into when he sold himself not to the most competitive team but to the highest bidder. He may simply be biding time with his latest reversal. Judging from his comments to Gordon Edes of the Boston Globe during an interview in the Dominican Republic, Tejada still doesn't sound content. Tejada told Edes he changed his mind because of his daughter, Alexis, 6, who had told him that she liked living in Baltimore. He also indicated that he had been bothered by criticism of his trade request both in the U.S. and Dominican Republic. But he also made it clear that he was not happy with the Orioles' direction, saying he was "really angry" that the team had not made significant off-season improvements. Well, he can't have it both ways. If Tejada wanted out, he could have gotten out. Perhaps, as he told Edes, he merely heeded the advice of his wife, who told him, "Wait for God to give you the opportunity to win. Don't look for it. Let God decide when you're going to win." Or perhaps, with the trade talks moving toward unknown, potentially undesirable outcomes, Tejada simply lost his nerve.
I absolutely agree. A Brad Lidge is much more valuable to a team than a player like Tejada who would not have resigned with the Astros anyways. The Astros have given up valuable prospects for 1 season or half a season of some big name stud, namely Randy Johnson and Beltran. They made the biggest offer in franchise history to Beltran and he did not resign here I seroiusly doubt Tejada would. Loaded offense does not necessarily win. Look at the Yankees, Rangers etc but great shut down pitching does. Look at the Astros last year
It's all the proverbial water under the bridge at this point. I'll be happy if the slick fielding Everett can hit .270 this year. A .270 batting average for great defense at short is more then acceptable.
