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Bozer for Luis Scola?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by matac3, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. Rocket86

    Rocket86 Member

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    Too much If. At present a straight up trade might be good but it would be safer to stick to Scola. For one, He knows the system of Adelman and the chemistry between him and the team is at all time high.
     
  2. J.R.

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    Has this turned into a random trade proposal thread? This rumor was dismissed within the rumor if that makes sense.
     
  3. BarkleyHater84

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    Who's Bozer? Oooh, Boozer. If Utah is willing to let the guy leave for Paul Milsap, then you know what time it is. NO THANKS!
     
  4. saleem

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    Talent wise,Boozer is better on offense, and a little better on defense.(Hate his grabbing,hooking,flopping on defense) He does need a rim protecting,rebounding center with him(Deke in his prime would be great with him) as well as a good PG. He would get touches here,but I'm sure he wouldn't be happy with Lowry and Brooks. A bad fit for us,I'm sure he would bolt. He did cheat on the Cavs after all.
     
  5. saleem

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    Yes,it has. It's to be expected because we are looking for a bigger name. I don't want Boozer on our team.
     
  6. saleem

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    DM obviously has no interest in giving Luis to the Jazz and letting Boozer go to Miami,which is the intent of the original post. I doubt if he would be interested in Boozer anyway,with his issues and injuries.
     
  7. Naija Texan

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    The Boozer I saw last year, wasn't half as effective as Scola. And based on our current situation, I am more apt to think he is not at 100%, then gamble expecting him to be. Besides, Boozer has no loyalty, he's a merc and not even an entertaining one. He will probably either fake an injury or only really come to play at the end of the season so that potential teams can see him as a desirable target in the 2010 year of bad player signings.
     
  8. connoisseur

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    Thanks but no thanks! IMHO, Bozer would begin to depreciate from the moment he gets his next (if not his last) eight-figure contract. :D
     
  9. worzel gummidge

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    They would not get past the first round.
     
  10. Rocket86

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    Against the Jazz again. :D :D
     
  11. durvasa

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    Why do you think he needs a rebounding center with him? He's no slouch in that department.
     
  12. larsv8

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    Scola is everything good about the Rockets.
    Boozer is everything (almost) I hate about the Jazz.

    An emphatic no on this deal, even if it was straight up one for one.
     
  13. Sonn

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    The NBA would never allow Scola on the Jazz, No team can have a starting flopping 5 the Refs can't handle that but anyway I'd rather scola, but Booz would be an upgrade
     
  14. saleem

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    I actually wanted to emphasize the shot blocking,defense part. An extra rebounder wouldn't hurt,and could share the boards with him.
     
  15. rocketfan21

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    Thank you for clearing this up for all the people who simply turned on their XBOX to see if Boozer was rated higher than Scola on NBA 2k.

    Trade would make absolutely no sense for us.
     
  16. MambaJoe

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    Sounds great but problem is, Boozer is way more expensive and there is no point of having him if we're trying to save up for the 2010 offseason.
     
  17. leebigez

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    Even if it has been dismissed, I can tell a lot of fans on this board could never run a company. Loyalty is one thing, but stupidity is another. How is making a trade and the rockets wind up with the best player in the deal and cap flexibility not a good thing. I proposed Scola,shane,Barry, and hayes for Boozer,Miles, fasenko. Tell me where and what the rockets are losing and how it doesn't fit what they are trying to do?

    Adelman wants to run the motion offense. The jazz offense in its angles are pretty similar to adelmans ofense. Boozer and miles have shot a good %, have shown they can score without dominating the ball, and have shown they will move and cut without it.

    Get younger and more athletic. Boozer is 27,miles 22, and fasenko 21. Scola is 29,battier 30, barry 38, hayes 25. Another goal accomplished.

    Maintain cap flexibility. Boozer has a 12m expring contract, miles makes 3.7m and fasenko is a expiring. Again, if boozer plays well and the rockets can't get one of the other big free agents, they can sign and trade or resign him. If he's struggling during the season or someone offers something really good, you can trade him. Again, another goal accomplished.

    Finally, the talent. Boozer is better in adelmans systems,sloans system, rudy t's system or any other system you care to name than scola. In reality, its not even close. There isn't one aspect of scola's game that anyone can say he does better than boozer. Miles is 22 and getting better, while shane is 30 and declining. Hayes is a situational player and barry should retire. The rockets are getting 2 maybe 3 starters and better talent for 2 bench players, a situational player, and a AARP member. How is that not good for the rockets? Just because a guy has been kicking your ass in the playoffs doesn't mean you let it disrupt your goal.
     
  18. DVauthrin

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    I agree with you that Boozer is a better player than Scola.

    Scola is not a bench caliber PF in the NBA, first of all. He can score in the low block, hit a mid range J and has an incredibly high motor. Then, we get to your opinion on C.J. Miles. How can you say that a player that can't average more than 10 minutes a game in a playoff series is starter material but Battier is bench worthy? Makes no sense. Fesenko is all potential as well and it's debatable whether he is any better than the team's current big man rotation.

    It's not good value for Scola and Battier, that's why. The difference between scola and boozer is not worth selling shane battier for pennies on the dollar, which is what you are proposing.
     
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  19. AroundTheWorld

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    This is a fantastic trade proposal.




    If you are a Utah Jazz fan.
     
  20. leebigez

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    DV, I didn't mean it to say Scola and Battier are bench players, what I mean is if they go to Utah, they would be bench players. Milsap is better than scola and he's younger. I guess battier would start at the 3 and brewer would slide to the 2, but its also possible that Ak would start and shane would be off the bench also. That's what I meant by 2 bench players. Scola and shane can start on the rockets, but how many other teams could they start for? When I talked about miles, his production vs his age vs his contract would be a good throw in as well as the big youngster. I'm not saying that it would help the rockets get over the top this year, but it would be a pretty good core setup when or if yao comes back or if another big name free agents was looking at a team with upside. A lot of people on this board can't separate personal fandom from business and basketball sense. I don't care who puts on the rockets unifroms as long as they can play and help the rockets. Who wouldve ever thought Rodman could go play with jordan and pippen after all the hard fouls and battles they had?
     

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