well, sorry that i wasn't informed that i don't have freedom of speech in US. as people make up rules to limit my rights. wow. what can i say.
The real question, and I wish I could start a topic/poll about it, is should Yao speak out against human rights abuses in his own country? He is a fine upstanding young man, but the fact remains he has been given the royal treatment by the Chinese government relative to other citizens, in exchange for being a mouthpiece/poster boy for the Chinese government to the international community. Yao is now in a position where he has influence, has a large audience that will hear what he has to say. Will he continue to remain a puppet of the Chinese government, or will he cast light on the terrible things they do to their own people?
I don't think posting in Chinese here is appropriate, but we've seen Spanish, Arabic and other languages here before, I don't think it's extremely offensive either. I think yuantian's intention was quite clear, that he thinks the poster he talked about was intentionally trolling, so he was asking fellow Chinese posters to ignore that. I don't understand how entering Chinese could be perceived as intentionally offending anyone here. What's there to offend, and why would he do that? On the very same page, linking Chinese with Nazis are fine, linking oversea Chinese with terrorist sleeping cells are fine, but entering one line of Chinese is extremely rude or offensive. That's fine, because this is a free country, you can believe what you want to. Like I said many times before, when it comes to China or Chinese, all games are fine. Of course, according to some, those were just jokes, I am still siting on my hands and eagerly waiting for such "jokes" to be made to other ethnic groups for the first time in so many years.
Yuantian sounds like some singer's name, no? Or should it be Tian Yuan? ps: this is in English, but Ｉ doubt most of you understand what I'm talking about.
rocketjudoka I always respect your thoughtful opinions. But you come across to me as very hypocritical there. So you find [posting a few chinese characters to be rude. But you do not find equating the protesters against the biased media in a peaceful demonstration to Nazi gathering to be rude and offensive. Before I read that post. I had never imagined that I would call you a hypocrite.
Flag-waving nationalist demonstration on behalf of an authoritarian regime, specifically in support of its efforts to colonize and coopt an indigenous people - that's what's really offensive.
You're really not familiar with 1st amendment rights. A msg. board isn't owned by the government. The US isn't going to sweep down and close a Nazi website just because of its hate speech. Clutch's site, Clutch's rules.
i asked earlier, but no one showed me. where is Clutch's rule that specifically said, English only all the time. Thanks.
Demonstrators wave flags all the time. You see Mexico flags in the Hispanics demonstrations all the time. Geeze you even see national flags in concerts and soccer games. So using flag waving as an argument is asisine. And, the purpose of the demonstration is against how the media portrays the unrest in Tibet. And we have seen how the media has 'worked' with photos in the first three pages of this thread. Also, you have no idea what the political belief of the demonstrators is. Trying to link them to colonization without obvious reason has served nothing but to discredit whatever you have said in this thread. No matter how you spin it, what they protest about is not even remotely as offensive as trying to link the demonstrators to Nazi (which you have done).
Would someone with the abillity to create topics post this as one. I would be interested in discussing it.
People wave the mexican flag at soccer matches or at pro immigrant events here, not to celebrate the crushing of the Zapatista guerillas.
Ok, so by seeing that flag, you assume that the demonstrators celebrate the crushing of the Tibetans and you think the demonstrators deserve to be linked to Nazi Germany. Is that what you are trying to tell us?
I had stated before that I found a lot of the anti-Chinese comments to be insulting and not helping and would say comments like as you describe to be as such. I don't have too much time to go through threads and hadn't noticed that comparison made. I don't want to be a net nanny and apologize for coming off as such, I like political discourse and don't want to see Clutch shut down the D & D. If you don't feel I am catching everything and I am being selective in what and who I chastise all I can say is its not intentional and if you feel it is by all means call me on it.
Wow, are you challenging the legitimacy of current Chinese government? I just wonder some of yall really care about Tibetans or just hate on everything the Chinese government does. Back to the topic my opinions 1. Sports and politics should not mix. Boycotting something rarely achieve its goals in the past, and the end result will only be increased animosity among involved parties. 2. Comunists dont believe any form of religion is good for people. They consider themselves revolutionary in that regard. They take paternalistic approach in restricting religion practice towards their people. And they GENIUNELY believe this is for the good of the people. Communists are the extreme progressionists sort of speak. 3. The Chinese government's stance on religion isnt any different in Tibet from the rest of China. Communits in China are notorious even to preserve the Han Culture, case in point the 3 Gorge Dam. 4.Tibet's issues are internal to China. They are domestic issues. The Chinese goverment handle them no different from if they were to happen say in Shanghai. 5.People have freedom to migrate in China after the 1980s, and people move to Tibet on their on own wills. 6.Most of people China are content with the current government. China is the fastest growing economy for the last 20 years in the world. The Chinese government do seem to care about people's well-being. You certainly can disagree how another country manages its own business, and even wage a war on it if you feel like compeled, i.e Iraq.
