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Boycott Limbaugh Buying Rams?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by joliver325, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. Rocketman95

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    when people start looking to chris rock as a voice of a political movement, then you may have a point. whether rush thinks of himself as a journalist or an entertainer first and foremost is irrelevant (truth is, he's probably thinking of fried chicken and hillbilly heroin). people who listen to him take him seriously and he knows that.

    let me know next time obama is apologizing at the feet of chris rock after saying chris rock doesn't speak for the democrats.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Such as the clip posted? HA-HA
     
  3. Deckard

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    Very good post. I don't know why potential partners of Limbaugh would chance what could turn out to be a huge headache. The money involved is enormous. Why take the risk?
     
  4. giddyup

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    Seems to me like Democrats more than Republicans shout about Rush being the voice of the Republicans.

    And, oh yeah, he despises McCain (who was the Republicans most recent presidential candidate).

    I figure both Chris Rock and Rush are referencing serious matters for sure. But to the left-leaning audience Rock gets away with just about anything he might say and Rush gets away with nothing. Double standard plain and simple with a heaping dose of bias.

    Rush started out as a lone voice in the wilderness so he has become iconic, no doubt. He has friends in high places for sure but he seems to have no formal role with the Republican party and he has eschewed a political career thus far.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Your post would be spot on if only we didn't know the history of our nation. HIstory adds significance.

    There is no history of rednecks being kept out of jobs, schools, restaurants, professions, etc.

    There is no history of the U.S. govt. intentionally using rednecks to perform medical experiments on without their knowledge.

    There is no history of rednecks being enslaved, separated from their families, forbidden to learn to read and write, etc.

    There is no history of rednecks being denied the right to vote, lynched and murdered when protesting for their rights. There is no history of blacks bombing the churches of rednecks and killing their children in the blast.

    So if somebody makes a characterization of a redneck it means next to nothing compared to somebody making characterizations of blacks. To weigh those kinds of comments equally is to ignore history, certainly.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    Still defending Rush? Surprise, surprise.

    I bet you "don't even watch" his show, right?
     
  7. B-Bob

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    This is good or balanced why exactly? McCain is an obvious country-before-party guy, and it just fits all the criticism of Mr. Limbaugh that he would "despise" a guy like McCain.

    Have to say that, out of his uncomfy campaign mode, McCain has been pretty great again this year, in terms of being a sane conservative who can work with people of either party.
     
  8. giddyup

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    Well, he vilified McCain right up to and through the election. We're not just talking about opinions spouted during early primary season and long-forgotten by the time of November elections.

    Can you show me where Limbaugh's criticisms of McCain fall under the category of "Country before Party" rather than "This Idea Stinks"?
     
  10. giddyup

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    1A. So you are admitting to a double-standard with regards to race?

    1B. How many decades or centuries or millenia are we to defer ALL criticism to CERTAIN elements of people-- some of whose parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and great-great-grandparents were treated unjustly by some of our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and great-great-grandparents? Reparations anyone?

    2. Rush delivering his audience to the mouths and minds of people like Sowell and Williams says much more about his "characterization of blacks."

    I just ran to the grocery story and tuned in Rush just to hear what he was saying. He did a nice essay on his race neutrality. He's all about personal accomplishment regardless of anything except legality.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    I don't know, have you ever been to the Wal-mart in Porter?
     
  12. Rashmon

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    Google project MKULTRA.
     
  13. Rocketman95

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    i'm still trying to figure out how chris rock is comparable to rush limbaugh. does rush think of himself as a stand-up comedian?
     
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    So you agree with the Taliban member who got ripped in 4 weeks that thats no moon?
     
  15. giddyup

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    He describes himself as an entertainer not a journalist. Since he doesn't sing, dance or do magic or recitations and since his show is full of parody, musical or otherwise, I'd go with humor.
     
  16. Rocketman95

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    i'm impressed with the flexibility of someone your age. to say chris rock and rush limbaugh have the same purpose is like saying a comparison to hitler isn't meant to invoke negative thoughts.
     
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    1A - yes. Absolutely. Mocking rednecks and mocking a historically oppressed minority should definitely be viewed differently.

    1B. Well the slavery, and oppression when on legally for almost 400 years in this nation. Do you think 45 years is enough time to completely erase that? I can show you studies that say it isn't. If you believe 45 years totally makes up for almost 400 years then please point to research that supports that.

    2. Again Sowell is joke. You defend his Hitler comparison, so it doesn't surprise me that his defense of Rush carries a lot of weight with you, even more than vast majority who outnumber him in their take on Rush.

    Rush can claim that's what he's all about, but his actions show he's also about stereotyping regardless of accomplishment. His actions also show he's trying to sow racial discord from whites towards blacks.

    Just look at his coverage of the school bus beating. He talked about "Obama's America" and how the black kids were beating up a white one.

    He ignored the fact that the police looked into it and said it wasn't racially motivated.

    You pick some real losers to try and defend.
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    don't you know? if one or two black dudes get together and say something's ok, that's all it takes to speak for the rest! hitler knew that.
     
  19. Franchise2001

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    I've listened to his show for countless hours (try working in rural america where there is nothing on except for conservative talk radio) and there is very little on his show that could be considered humor. He spends half the time analyzing Obama's speeches in the most disrespectful manner possible. When he isn't doing that, he's taking phone calls from people all over the country that eat his **** up like its apple pie (cuz that Ammerrikan).

    I don't care what he says. He's neither an entertainer or a journalist. He's a propagandist to the highest degree. Backed by corporations that benefit by his hate talk.

    "Even if you meet the perfect person, it ain't gonna be at the perfect time. You're married, they're single. That's right. You're Jewish, they're Palestinian. You're a Mexican, they're a raccoon. You're a black woman, he's a black man." - Chris Rock

    Write back when Rush says something against Conservatives or white people.
     
  20. giddyup

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    I'm disappointed by your lack of imagination. There are different ways of being funny-- off the top of my head:

    1. MIME: Marcel Marceaux

    2. STAND-UP: Chris Rock, Robin Williams, and a zillion others

    3. COMMENTARY: Rush Limbaugh/Jon Stewart/Andy Rooney

    4. SKETCH: Harvey Korman, Red Skelton

    5. PARODY: Paul Shanklin

    6. HOST: Carson, Leno, Letterman, DeGeneres et al

    7. SLAPSTICK: Three Stooges

    8. (Feel free to add to the list)

    BTW, I didn't say that Sowell didn't use a Hitler reference for a duplicitous purpose; I only said that it could hardly be called a "comparison" of Hitler to Obama because Sowell only remarked that they shared a single characteristic of political pragmatism.

    I believe the term I objected to was someone's suggestion that Sowell had "equated" the two when in reality it was just a sliver of a comparison.
     

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