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Boycott Israe;. Companies Doing Business and Divest from Israel

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    Here are some links:

    http://www.pcusa.org/ga216/news/ga04121.htm

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/presb-div.html


    World Episcopalian leaders recommended divestment from Israel as well:

    http://www.hrwf.net/html/2004PDF/Israel_2004.pdf#search='divestment%20church%20israel'

    And other churches and religious groups/leaders that want divestment from Israel:

    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=8946

    It's a wider campaign than most Americans realize...
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Now that Freedom Fries are back to French Fries, I propose that bagels should be renamed Freedom Rings.
     
  3. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    I've got an idea... if we all stop paying our taxes, maybe Israel would run out of money. :D
     
  4. glynch

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    tinman, I try not reply to your silliness.
     
  5. glynch

    glynch Member

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    Well they might if we stop subsidizing them so heavily with our tax dollars.. They might be forced to stop voluntary offensive wars and destroying Lebanon's environoment. Did you catch the big oil spill today.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    sorry glynch,

    my point is that its such a ridiculous idea and that no one in america will care about boycotting this massive list of companies that they couldn't avoid if they were some vegan tree hugger.
    boycotting france was easy, cause they have concrete industries like wine. even though that was also stupid.
    boycotting companies doesn't work anymore. i know some jews would never buy a german car, do you see Benz and BMW out of business? no.
    people should not act all r****ded like cindy sheehan and actually do something productive to prove their point or help their cause.

    sitting in front of W's ranch is just as productive of stopping the iraq war as dropping chalupas and cold cut combos to stop isreal.

    plus i like that Jared is the Zionist leader comment!
     
  7. glynch

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  9. mleahy999

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    Do we buy anything besides oil and potpourri from the Arab countries? There doesn't seem to be any strong industries to fall back on once we take all their oil.
     
  10. tinman

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    im sure there's more stuff, the problem is that their governments seem more interested in corruption, religion and destroying Israel than economic advancement and technology.

    America dropped 2 Nukes on Japan. Now Japan nuked Ford, GM, and Chrysler.

    i'm all for religion and all that jazz, but you got to spend some time on the planet doing other stuff than praying.
     
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    I was at the grocery store a few days ago looking for hotdogs. Picked up some that looked good. As I was walking to the counter I saw that it said, "Product of Israel" (or something like that). I put it back and got something different.

    ehh.
     
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    Really? Huh! I had no idea that Israel made hot dogs. What brand were they? I like the Ballparks...
     
  15. tinman

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    so are you going to return your Matisyahu CD now?

    dude, did you buy HEBREW NATION?

    I dont like the Saudi Regime, I'm not going the el cheap gas station, I'm going to Oil spilling EXXON!
     
  16. tigermission1

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    Saudi Arabia alone (that's one Arab country of roughly 24 million people) has roughly a trillion dollars invested in the U.S.

    There are massive 'business ties' between America and the Arab world, yes.
     
  17. mleahy999

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    ^A trillion $ is great but how much of that will benefit everyday people. SA's GDP per capita shrunk dramatically from 20 years ago. I'm guessing they don't use that Reagan line asking about if you're better off now then before. Unemployment is 13%-25%. 45% of GDP is from oil helped by the recent oil prices. The most popular major at universities is religious studies. Singapore probably produces more engineers and doctors than SA. I'm not sure how successful SA will unfold in the future without manufacturing anything, researching and developing science, or having Dell call centers.
     
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    Can I still buy Kosher salt?
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    Okay. These links are referring to the PCUSA, which is a different presbyterian denomination from the PCA. The PCA is generally pretty conservative (and seem to try to be politically inert), which is why I'd be surprised if they wanted to boycott Israel. PCUSA is more varied in their political leanings, but probably average out to be a good deal more liberal than the PCA.
     
  20. tigermission1

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    The one thing that has and will always set the Saudis back is the fact that their people are not very concerned about doing well in school. Mind you, they have a world-class educational system (math, sciences, and everything else, along with religious education of course) that is simply not being utilized by the average Saudi. As a result, they have to seek outside skilled workers (the so-called "guest workers") to satisfy their relatively massive job market.

    As for their 'standard of living', it certainly has dropped ever since the late 1980s/early 90s, but it's still strong enough to keep most Saudis somewhat content. The reason why there is a high unemployment rate in Saudi is that many Saudis don't have the necessary skills to work as engineers, physicians, or other high-tech/health science fields. For that, the South Asians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, and almost everyone other than Saudis are the main beneficiaries. In other words, they're not getting the necessary education or skills to fill those jobs, which the government is trying to address.

    However, they have a relatively healthy economy and a manageable national debt. But you're right in that long-term they need to 'right the ship', their safety net (oil) won't always be there to fall back on.

    As for their investments in this country, I was replying to the poster who was wondering about the importance of the Arab world from a business standpoint, and that was my response.

    Furthermore, if I am not mistaken, Saudis buy more bonds than anyone else in the world, with exception of China and Japan; in other words, they help finance our debt-happy government/society.
     

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