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Boxing Workout: Patrick Beverley, Greg Smith, Isaiah Canaan & Robert Covington

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr. Dominant, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. MadMax

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    Ridiculous overstatement. It's better to run outdoors if you're planning on training for a long run....but they're used by marathon runners for speed training while endurance is improved with outdoor runs. Mixing in treadmill runs to conditioning in training for a long run is commonplace. And I'd far prefer someone get on a treadmill than not to get their heart rate going at all.

    However, on the topic that's the subject of the thread, I agree with you entirely...cross-training is a good thing.
     
  2. Fawkward

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    Teaching our bench to scrap it out come playoff time
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    K, I see your point. But I'll only use a treadmill if there's nowhere to run outdoors/rain/snow on the ground. Let me revise:

    Treadmills are ridiculously overused.
     
  4. Angkor Wat

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    Geez, only clutchfans can turn a cool boxing workout video into some boring ass discussion about how this one session will translate to the court smh

    Why discuss something fun like which Rocket has the best hands? Who's the best fighter on the team or who can't fight? But no, another thread of complaining.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    LOL you're the one doing "smh" and "complaining." OK, "why not discuss something fun?" You neglected to do it.

    To me, yoga, running, lifting, cross-training, and talking about how pro athletes work out, are fun.

    But I agree with you that I like the boxing video and find no fault with it.
     
  6. MadMax

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    yep. I overuse them for sake of convenience. But I don't feel like I'm wasting my time, either.
     
  7. RV6

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    Are you saying a you'd recommend following a baseball program to get in shape for basketball? Because that's what I'm referring to. I'm not talking about dipping into other sports training to supplement a basketball program. I can see the benefit in that, provided you're dipping into the right facets of that other sport. If it's just a sunday funday thing, like i said before, then it doesn't matter because it's a one time thing. But again, my comment was in response to Canaan potentially using boxing to stay in shape, which implies long term use (said this in my third post).


    Where did i do this?

    I said it wouldn't make sense, if they continue to use it to train for basketball. That was my second post in this thread. How am i implying they quit basketball drills?


    It's not a last stand. i mentioned too much punching in the training wasn't that beneficial in my first post.

    So, within three posts i explained and clarified my position. You made comments over what you thought i meant, not over what was actually posted.
     
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    But there are better ways of developing their leaping ability. Jumping rope doesn't take them through the whole range of motion of a leap. The ankle, knee, and hip only lightly flex and extend throughout jumping rope. That's why box jumps have become more popular. You're exploding off a squat, extending the hips, and land back in a squat position. It takes you through most of the range of motion available.

    That's why, in the long run, jumping rope would not be that beneficial to a leaper. It's all about efficiency, getting the most bang for your buck. You want to spend more time with more effective exercises. Boxers are standing up and lightly jumping around the ring for most of their fighting time, that's why jumping rope would be more beneficial to them. In general, does jumping rope help cardio endurance and fitness? Yeah, but it's importance varies from sport to sport.
     
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    With regards to leaping (higher), I will agree with you that it does not appear that it has an effect. But I can also see the possibility of jump rope improving your ability to jump quickly since you can use your toes to get off the ground. History has proven that the above average rebounders (rodman, marrion, barkley, etc) who lack height have one thing in common - quick leapers. They don't necessarily jump high but they get off the ground quicker which gives them an advantage to getting to the ball first. T
     
  10. RV6

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    I agree with that, but my thinking would be to then mold that drill (jumping rope) into something that more closely resembles game action. In game action, when they have to quickly jump, they're usually reaching up to rebound, block, or tip a ball, so i still would rather go with something else than jumping rope. A simple drill where they tip the backboard or reach for something high, as they quickly jump, would be my pick.
     
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    Hard to tell what would be best way to improve this without having to pay in "wear and tear" of the knees and feet.
     
  12. RV6

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    yes that would be a concern...that's where proper mechanics comes into play. Sounds like the rockets are already taking that scientific approach.
     
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    All that punching is going to put their conditioning through the roof to be ready if they need to play increased minutes. If sure it has a positive impact on hand eye coordination as well.
     
  14. RV6

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    A lot of things put conditioning through the roof. Ideally, however, you want most of your conditioning work to resemble the specific movements of your sport. If the focus was simply on making the heart work, then every single athlete, regardless of sport, could just do max sprints on a track and become greatly conditioned for their sport. That's not the case though. You want to condition more muscles than the heart, as in those that you'll actually be using in a game.

    You also have to take time into consideration. An extremely intense punching routine, let's say for 25 minutes, is not ideal in conditioning an athlete to push himself at the 37th or 44th minute of playing time in a game. It's not as simple as saying X workout will improve their conditioning because it's hard. You have to tie it in to game conditions.
     
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    Camby out for first week, smith out with hip, did this happen during the boxing workout ?
     

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