Boxing Workout: Patrick Beverley, Greg Smith, Isaiah Canaan & Robert Covington

I just hope they all make the roster cut, because whoever doesn’t the last memory of them as part of the rockets organization would be them would be working on their boxing skills. All jokes to the side
I think it is a good workout but still kind of too close to the season maybe, cannan couldn’t prove himself in summer league because he had to sit out every game due to a ankle injury, so since I’m now healthy the last thing I would be do is hitting a punching bag a week before my first NBA training camp and putting myself at risk to hurt my wrist or finger, hand anything and not be able to participate again. Other than a random injury happening I don’t see anything wrong with it, it is the best cardio workout I’ve ever had but too close to the season

 

Seems like the OP was the only one who recognised but again: Greg Smith looks like a beast, look at that chest! I thought he was big before but he looks like a freaking wrestler, hope he goes for that back-up PF position, we need a PF who can bang down there.

 

They should go train in Kevin Garnett school of whacking opponent's testicles.

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After what Kermit Washington did to RudyT,
I think all the Rockets should get some sort of self defense training...

That's not wasting time....and if I didn't know better I'd think you were trolling...
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It's funny that we have seen Covington out with the team a few times but no BJ Young sighting yet. Even Henriquez has been seen.

 

Robert Covington should make the team, training camp should be very interesting, if he is shooting better than caspi and can play better defense why not him back up parsons. and he rebounds well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbQ87Xhi8To

 

This is just a necessary part of professional basketball training.

I recalled Meta World Peace gave that elbow to James Harden back I can't remember the date:

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Good for them! Cross training is smart.

 

If Pat "injures" Westbrook or somebody else next season, he'll be the Bernard Pollard of the NBA.

 

I completely agree with you on this one. I think Covington will make the team bc he has upside at a very reasonable cost, even if we're in win now mode.

 

I said some stuff would translate and some wouldn't. In the same sentence. There are cross training work outs and then there are workouts to train for X sport. The difference is, the former focuses more on improving general function/overall athleticism. The latter is mostly about improving performance in that sport, which can take the body to extremes that aren't necessary, or even detrimental to overall athleticism. Sports came after man, we force man (the body) to adapt to the specific demands of sports. For that reason, sports movements don't always make us better athletes, just better players at that sport (which goes back to what was said about athletes not knowing how to throw or punch well).

I actually do too. i said it from the beginning. Some of the foot work will transfer, as will the core work. It was the emphasis on punching that I didn't find that useful to a ball player.

I dont think anyone is disagreeing. You're confusing training for a completely different sport with using different modes of training. What some of us are saying is, it's fine to train in different ways for basketball, but don't train for baseball/boxing/football etc to become a better ball player. Strength training, plyo work, yoga, sprinting, etc are all different ways of training the body for optimal function. Punching a bag 300 times is not. That's training to become a great puncher, specifically.

This work out is being directed by a former boxer. His objective is not to make these guys better ball players or athletes, it's to make them better boxers. Not that's he's doing it on purpose, but that's just the objective of such a work out. It's a boxing work out, for a boxer, being taught by a former boxer.

On the other hand, the team's strength coach's objective is to make them better at basketball. He may choose to incorporate some track, swimming, football, baseball, soccer, or boxing drills to help them improve in certain areas, but it will always come back to how that helps them become better bball players. His job is to figure out how to make those drills bball-centric and translate those skills over to the court.

I already said I was addressing what Canaan said about possibly continuing this work out to stay in shape. Obviously, being a pro bball player, he's not going to quit basketball training for boxing. However, using a boxing work out, even in the off season, to stay in shape, will shape and mold you further away from basketball shape. People think it's all cardio work, so what's the big deal? But it's not, it's conditioning boxing-specific muscles and memorizing boxing patterns. It's teaching your body a new way to move, a new rhythm, which isn't basketball.

Remember who else boxed a lot, as a way to stay in shape?



His body was great for boxing, but for basketball? Not enough, apparently. Some guys, like Duncan, who's a 10 yr plus vet, know how to use that training to supplement their careers. Younger players will struggle with that more.

 

TWill's training regimen had nothing to do with his lack of success in the NBA. That was strictly a head issue. There was no exercise regimen for his brain.

 

Literally nobody has said you can train in another sport with the intention of becoming a better basketball player.

Nearly everybody has said cross-training in another sport is a good supplement as part of your strength and conditioning program to improve your conditioning.

You have been arguing against a straw-man this entire thread.

 

LOL howbout lifting weights, pushups, pullups? those movements arent used in basketball..

 

You train your mind when you train your body. Perhaps the reason why he couldn't have a basketball player's mentality is because he was stuck with a boxer's (fighter's?). Plus, his shot did improve when he actually spent more time on it during the summer.

I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not because of the LOL at the beginning of your comment.

No, I've been arguing against the straw man others used against me. People assumed i was against things like strength training, yoga, sprinting, and all kinds of cross training. In reality, i was against cross training that focused too much on the skills only good for another sport. I clarified that in my very first post. i was addressing what Canaan said about continuing to use it to stay in shape.

 

Give it a break. I'm not confused. You said this: "Not a fan of doing other sports to get in shape for a different sport." I disagree. Doing other sport can get you in shape for a different sport.

Then you tried to imply that maybe the guys had given up basketball drills in favor of boxing, or at least, they should remember to practice basketball.

Now your last stand is that punching won't make them better basketball players. I don't know about that, but I don't think it's a big point and I don't think punching is all they were doing in the gym. Whatever your point is, let's consider it made, but it's pretty small, whatever it is. This is my last post on the subject.

 

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Quick punching techniques can increase hand speed which would translate into more steals and better defense.

 

Yeah, he has had a pretty busy offseason.

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I box and I will guarantee that these guys fitness will improve if they do this several times a week. Jumping rope is really helpful for leaping.